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Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Posted Sep 6, 2016 13:57 UTC (Tue) by SukSuk (guest, #110996)
In reply to: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice by HelloWorld
Parent article: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Bugzilla has a lot to do with this. There are a lot of open issues to be implemented in the future. Issue A may request a certain GUI, issue B a different GUI...

Sweet spot?
Look at the current M$ office market share... plenty of growth potential for AOO *and* LO *and* Calligra *and* Gnome *and* even more new office suits.


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Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Posted Sep 7, 2016 22:54 UTC (Wed) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link] (2 responses)

> Bugzilla has a lot to do with this.
Simply asserting that doesn't make it true.

> There are a lot of open issues to be implemented in the future. Issue A may request a certain GUI, issue B a different GUI...
Yes, so what? Again, here's the list of criteria for some feature F that would justify a fork:
- it must be impossible to implement in LibreOffice, be it for technical or social or some other reason. Otherwise, it's clearly best to simply implement it there and be done with it, since you'll otherwise end up with dozens of office suites, each of which implements a different subset of the features any given user needs
- it must be implementable in Apache OpenOffice in theory as well as practice. Otherwise both alternatives won't have it, making neither product better in that respect
If you cannot name such a feature, you failed to apply your argument to the situation at hand. And in fact, the only feature meaningful feature that AOO ever brought to the table, the sidebar, was rapidly ported to LO, making AOO redundant. That alone proves your argument doesn't fly *at all*.

> Look at the current M$ office market share...
The numbers alone don't mean *anything at all* as long as they're not accompanied by a theory as to why they are the way they are. In fact, it's easy to argue the other way around: MS's market share clearly indicates that interoperability issues, thin spreading of developer resources etc. have left the open source office suites unable to compete, thus resulting in a monopoly of MS Office. Now I'm not saying that's actually the case, but you'll have to provide some sort of argument as to why this assessment of the situation is so much more likely to be wrong than your's if you want to be taken seriously.

Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Posted Sep 8, 2016 10:02 UTC (Thu) by SukSuk (guest, #110996) [Link] (1 responses)

Sorry for not having the time to locate such specific examples in Bugzilla.

The Sidebar IMHO is a bad feature that should have stayed in Lotus Symphony. It is a shame that LO also chose to implement it. There is no point in having two similar office suites. Each suite should aim to be unique instead of being yet another clone.

I agree, no chance for OOo and LO to break the glass ceiling as long as M$ is a platinum sponsor to ASF and Google is advisory board member in TDF.

Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Posted Sep 8, 2016 20:43 UTC (Thu) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

> Sorry for not having the time to locate such specific examples in Bugzilla.
I'm not asking for an example in Bugzilla, your argument may well apply there. Or maybe not, but either way, it's beside the point, I'm asking for an example in LibreOffice. And notice that lack of a sidebar is *not* a feature. If you don't like it, turn it off in the View menu. It's that simple.


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