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Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Posted Sep 4, 2016 22:00 UTC (Sun) by FLHerne (guest, #105373)
In reply to: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice by HelloWorld
Parent article: Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

His own blog is the most concentrated source:
http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/
http://www.robweir.com/blog/2012/
http://www.robweir.com/blog/category/fud

Particularly:
http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/06/apache-openoffice.htm...

"Did we continue talking with TDF after it became clear that they were not willing to consider moving to any non-copyleft foundation? No, of course not.
[...] the self-appointed, unelected TDF Steering Committee remains self-appointed and unelected even if they have self-authored bylaws, unapproved by the general membership that say that they might have an election after a year.
[...] The LO fork was more the culmination of a multi-year fight between Novell and Sun/Oracle than anything else."

http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/06/openoffice-libreoffic...

"So it was disappointing to witness a small but vocal minority of non-Apache members who disagreed with the proposal and who attempted to derail it. The day closed minded open source advocates decide to smother a new project in its crib, because they personally favor a different project, is the day that FOSS dies."

"Apache OpenOffice, with its permissive license, is an excellent basis now for open source as well as mixed source business models, business models that drive investment back into the ecosystem. The mixed source segment will grow the most, I believe."

"I don’t put any credence in activity-based metrics, like patches, since one can create an enormous amount of code activity by “cleaning up” the code, without having an impact that would increasing a project’s user base."

"It is not my place to take sides in a dispute between a self-appointed, unelected TDF spokesperson and a self-appointed, unelected TDF Steering Committee member. This is something you should resolve on the TDF list, I think, to ensure that your public image is less fragmented." (note the absence of any such dispute).


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Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Posted Sep 4, 2016 22:17 UTC (Sun) by FLHerne (guest, #105373) [Link]

Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Posted Sep 5, 2016 9:20 UTC (Mon) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link] (2 responses)

The irony of AOOers now complaining that LO was somehow hypocritical in not giving back to AOO, but instead restricting code to a licence that *requires* "giving back" by _following Apache's chosen licence_ burns even deeper when you read comments like:

http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/06/apache-openoffice.htm...

(Rahul's reply gives some wider context: http://www.robweir.com/blog/2011/06/apache-openoffice.htm... )

Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Posted Sep 5, 2016 9:27 UTC (Mon) by paulj (subscriber, #341) [Link] (1 responses)

Oh, I feel slightly sorry for Apache here. It seems they allowed themselves to be used as part of corporate manoeuvrings, between 1 or 2 very large corporates, and a wider community of corporates and other contributors. Perhaps still some mild hubris at play on the Apache side though that got them into this though.

Contemplating the possible retirement of Apache OpenOffice

Posted Sep 5, 2016 18:01 UTC (Mon) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

I think this feeling was widely felt initially - that Apache was being set up as a fall guy.

Then when they seemed to embrace the role, everyone lost their sympathy for them.

Cheers,
Wol


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