Gräßlin: Multi-screen woes in Plasma 5.7

Posted Jul 15, 2016 16:53 UTC (Fri) by andresfreund (subscriber, #69562)
In reply to: Gräßlin: Multi-screen woes in Plasma 5.7 by ewan
Parent article: Gräßlin: Multi-screen woes in Plasma 5.7

> I'm not surprised people get upset about that, it's upsetting.

True. But flaming the people actually spending their energy to work in the relevant area to death, is a good way to not get it ever fixed.

Gräßlin: Multi-screen woes in Plasma 5.7

Posted Jul 15, 2016 17:32 UTC (Fri) by halla (subscriber, #14185) [Link] (3 responses)

Especially when the flamers seem to be people who have never ever tried maintaining a free software project with a couple million users for even a day let alone years on end.

That said, I use Windows, Gnome, Plasma 5, Plasma 4 and OSX on a daily basis, and honestly, they all suck in different ways. Windows 10 regularly forgets that its got a touch screen -- which is unpleasantly limiting on a Surface Pro device. Gnome regularly forgets its extensions, and why the heck is the logout button hidden under a fold-out? Plasma 5 sometimes messes up my taskbar, but fair is fair, so does Windows 10. OSX has the most pathetic excuse for a Window manager ever, and instead of improving that is pushing all users to a full-screen workflow, because tablets. Connecting a drawing tablet is easiest on Linux, but both Gnome's and Plasma's tablet config applet is broken. OSX works fine with my Intuos 3 but not with my Cintiq, while the Intuos 3 doesn't work on Windows 10. On Windows, switching different tablets is hell anyway because they all need a different wintab dll, that cannot coexist. And what the heck has moved microsoft to ship a wintab driver for the Surface tablets that doesn't include the MSVC 2010 runtime?

Software is buggy, software sucks, software is hard, and if you're arguing that one OS is better than the other, or one desktop is better than the other, you're kidding yourself. The only real differentiator is freedom.

Gräßlin: Multi-screen woes in Plasma 5.7

Posted Jul 16, 2016 11:15 UTC (Sat) by tao (subscriber, #17563) [Link] (2 responses)

"why the heck is the logout button hidden under a fold-out?"

Because logging out it something that you don't do that often? Locking my screen -- sure, every time I leave my workstation. penguin + l.
suspending my laptop when I move it? Sure, close lid. But logging out? I don't think I've ever done that since university times, with shared lab computers...

Gräßlin: Multi-screen woes in Plasma 5.7

Posted Jul 16, 2016 15:35 UTC (Sat) by halla (subscriber, #14185) [Link] (1 responses)

Yes, I know the theory, but it still doesn't make any sense: it doesn't save space, it doesn't make the system easier to use or less cluttered, it adds clicks and it's confusing that the logout option is in a different place from reboot and shutdown. And I logout a lot because I need to test Krita on the most used desktops.

I also suspend my desktop a lot, for which I actually have to _install an extension_, which also doesn't make any sense to me.

Gräßlin: Multi-screen woes in Plasma 5.7

Posted Jul 19, 2016 19:45 UTC (Tue) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link]

And it's the devs assuming that their use-case is everybody's use case ... News at Ten - we're not all the same ...

Cheers,
Wol