Holy bubbles batman.

Posted Jul 13, 2016 19:50 UTC (Wed) by mjthayer (guest, #39183)
In reply to: Holy bubbles batman. by oldtomas
Parent article: Herman: Shipping Rust in Firefox

oldtomas:
> What I was trying to do is to point at the more social/political problem. By slowly shifting the defaults, this creates more incentives to make "rich" webpages where it wouldn't be necessary, and this shifts control from the user to the Page that Be. [...] Now what could be done better?

PrivacyBadger blocks resources known to be bad for your privacy. AdBlockPlus blocks resources known to show you intrusive advertising. What about something to block known unnecessarily rich web pages and resources with a warning like "This page is badly designed. Do you really want to view it? Yes/no/always for this page." It would take a bit of effort to get the balance right though.

Holy bubbles batman.

Posted Jul 13, 2016 23:13 UTC (Wed) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link] (3 responses)

Clearly a nearly complete PC emulator in Javascript must be poor design, as must be the now-common trick that dynamically shows older content as you scroll off the bottom, decreasing server load from those users who only want to see the newest content (with the static web you have to choose how many blog entries or photo thumbnails appear per page).

The web has changed; turning off Javascript means that you won't see most of the content, or possibly you'll just see the bait set out for search engines. Sorry.

Holy bubbles batman.

Posted Jul 14, 2016 0:11 UTC (Thu) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link]

>The web has changed; turning off Javascript means that you won't see most of the content, or possibly you'll just see the bait set out for search engines. Sorry.
“Turning off” means revoking default remote code execution privileges, not removing the concept from existence. The only ones punished here are websites that use active content out of malice or incompetence — they'll fail at whatever assault on security, battery life or good taste they were planning, with a corresponding loss of site visitors. As it should be.

Holy bubbles batman.

Posted Jul 14, 2016 15:50 UTC (Thu) by cwitty (guest, #4600) [Link] (1 responses)

Yes, showing older content as you scroll off the bottom is bad design, at least if that's the only way to navigate (which seems to be common). It makes it more or less impossible to see something from a year ago. (For another example, for years it's been effectively impossible for me to use the Barnes&Noble "My Library" to see what e-books I have... I'd have to sit there and hold page-down for an unbearably long time to see the whole list, and I suspect the web browser would crash first.)

Holy bubbles batman.

Posted Jul 14, 2016 16:41 UTC (Thu) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link]

> I'd have to sit there and hold page-down for an unbearably long time to see the whole list, and I suspect the web browser would crash first.

Things definitely misbehave and/or crash when you're using a memory-constrained system (eg smartphone or tablet). Of course, when you complain, you're just told "use the app instead" which makes me grind my teeth...