The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
Posted Mar 17, 2016 15:09 UTC (Thu) by torquay (guest, #92428)In reply to: The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release by pizza
Parent article: The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
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No, out of the box Fedora *didn't work*, a kludge was introduced with a later update that worked
Audio in Fedora 22 worked fine. Fedora 23 out-of-the box introduced the first regression (ie. F22 -> F23 upgrade), which was (promptly) corrected. Most recently the workaround for the audio setting was accidentally removed during the kernel 4.3 -> 4.4 update within F23, causing the second regression. Upon being informed of this, Abbott re-enabled the workaround, but then deliberately removed it. This is certainly cowboy behavior.
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which regression is more serious; a single laptop's audio not working, or multiple other systems not even booting?
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s/RH/Dell/ -- After all, it's their hardware, and they're the ones who botched the ACPI/firmware implementation badly enough such that after 7 updates the audio still doesn't work properly without lying to the laptop about what ACPI features are supported.
Posted Mar 17, 2016 15:42 UTC (Thu)
by peter-b (guest, #66996)
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Posted Mar 17, 2016 15:57 UTC (Thu)
by torquay (guest, #92428)
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Posted Mar 18, 2016 15:04 UTC (Fri)
by clump (subscriber, #27801)
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Posted Mar 17, 2016 15:44 UTC (Thu)
by pizza (subscriber, #46)
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Not out-of-the-box it didn't. The laptop needed a firmware update (actually, several) in order to get to that point. (Seriously, that laptop was a complete basket case on Linux for a while -- which is why I decided against buying it)
Well, unless you bought the "XPS 13 developer edition" and stuck to the OS/Kernel that shipped with the system instead of updating to upstream Ubuntu. But even the developer edition (and the firmware fixes that made it possible) came well after the laptop was available to the general public.
> One can argue ad infinitum that this is "upstream's fault", continually passing the blame. In the end, audio with the Fedora kernel worked, and then it was deliberately broken. From the point of view of Fedora users, the Fedora kernel is the upstream. You break it, you fix it.
You're right, this particular regression is technically the Fedora kernel maintainer's fault.
I suggest you contact your official Fedora support rep about this breach of contract. You're probably entitled to a full refund.
Posted Mar 17, 2016 16:13 UTC (Thu)
by raven667 (subscriber, #5198)
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I understand that people don't like being criticized for their decisions but I think this is all in the spirit of making the software better, not just blaming and pointless venting.
Posted Mar 17, 2016 20:33 UTC (Thu)
by pizza (subscriber, #46)
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Today's "On the Fastrack" seems quite appropriate:
Posted Mar 17, 2016 19:43 UTC (Thu)
by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239)
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Yes it did.
Posted Mar 21, 2016 18:25 UTC (Mon)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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Cheers,
Posted Mar 20, 2016 21:39 UTC (Sun)
by tuna (guest, #44480)
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If you have specific HW that does not work Fedora does not really care in my experience. But I do not know if any free (as in cost) distro is better.
Posted Mar 20, 2016 21:42 UTC (Sun)
by tuna (guest, #44480)
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Posted Mar 25, 2016 10:46 UTC (Fri)
by darkbasic (guest, #107872)
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@whoever jokes about asking refunds for FOSS software
Regarding Android: it is utter shit compared to whichever Linux distribution. ABI compatibility means nothing to me if they keep the development behind the curtains, with giant patchsets you will never be able to merge upstream and ugly blobs all over around. I'm angry enough because of the Intel's firmware, wishing to transform Linux to an Android-like nightmare is out of question.
P.S.
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
How much do you pay for your Fedora subscription, by the way?
I pay with my time by testing Fedora and filing bugs in the Red Hat Bugzilla. In turn, Red Hat indirectly uses my time and efforts to build RHEL, its bread and butter.
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
I pay with my time by testing Fedora and filing bugs in the Red Hat Bugzilla. In turn, Red Hat indirectly uses my time and efforts to build RHEL, its bread and butter.
It's good that you contribute, however if you think of Fedora as "free RHEL testing" you'll grow resentful. Fedora is RHEL's upstream, but it is a distinct project.
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
Wol
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1240566
The first CyanogenMod 13.0 release
You're not funny, free doesn't mean low quality nor having to settle. I personally contribute in many ways besides throwing a fixed amount of money at FOSS projects every month and there are plenty of peoples who contribute even more. I have no interest in the Fedora kernel because I always compile my own, but still I keep reporting bugs on configuration issues because I want things to work out of the box for other peoples.
The real one to blame here is Dell, because this fucking laptop is supposed to support Linux while the only thing which it does (half) support is their Android-like outdated Ubuntu distribution. You cannot sell a "Linux" laptop and at the same time ignore issues like this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105251