Systemd vs. Docker

Posted Mar 6, 2016 10:06 UTC (Sun) by hitmark (guest, #34609)
In reply to: Systemd vs. Docker by jcc1
Parent article: Systemd vs. Docker

"If they wanted to remake the Linux ecosystem, fine... They should have done what everyone else has had to do and build a distribution that fits their needs, then let it rise or fall according to market acceptance of their ideas. Instead, they snuck it in under the guise of a small improvement to one specific area that no one thought would cause too much trouble"

Oh so very very much this.

Systemd vs. Docker

Posted Mar 6, 2016 12:21 UTC (Sun) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link] (1 responses)

There seems to be this weird notion around that the systemd developers were somehow able to pressurise everybody into adopting systemd against their better judgement. In actual fact, the mainstream Linux distributions came on board exactly because their developers looked at systemd and decided – in some cases after extensive and painful deliberation – that it was an idea worth pursuing, over the available alternatives. Sounds like “market acceptance of their ideas” to me.

Would it have been possible to beef up SysV init or Upstart to do what systemd does? Perhaps, but in spite of a lot of talk about doing this, nobody volunteered to put in the effort – and in the free-software world, working code beats hypothetical yet-to-be-written code any day.

Systemd vs. Docker

Posted Mar 6, 2016 15:16 UTC (Sun) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link]

THIS. But not only this, I will say as one that had a great deal of suspicion towards the whole systemd thing initially: yes, Debian works BETTER and smoother with systemd. I probably will not try Devuan in the near future.