Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes
Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes
Posted Jan 23, 2016 3:48 UTC (Sat) by piotrjurkiewicz_ (guest, #106508)In reply to: Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes by rahvin
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> the editorial staff asked you to stop posting
In the last thread editor asked me to come back to the original topic (http://lwn.net/Articles/672819/) and I complied with his request (http://lwn.net/Articles/672835/).
> The audience of this website is not interested in what you have to say
So far only few people stated that, using rather abusive tone (calling others 'idiots' and 'trolls' instead trying to disprove their criticism of KS actions). As I believe that most of this website audience are well-mannered people, those behaving that way that cannot be a good sample of the population.
I will stop here, as editor apparently does not want to see further discussion on this topic here. As my final point, I would like to wish you that some day you will understand that KS decision to start consider non-merit factors in open source was a *very* bad thing, which will have profound negative consequences in the future.
Posted Jan 23, 2016 12:48 UTC (Sat)
by pboddie (guest, #50784)
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You made that point already with your absurd "true programming" label. And as I noted, the things that you don't consider to have "merit" have been regarded as essential aspects of any complete software project for quite some time. Many projects would benefit from a larger contributor base where the "true programmers" contribute a lower proportion of the total resulting work. One might have to reach beyond the normal "true programmers" demographic to achieve this. And there we have the basis of an idea for something: have you worked out what that might be? (I actually wonder how "true programmers" would get a degree or other higher education qualification. In some education systems, one doesn't need to write any kind of thesis at bachelor degree level, which is why some employers insist on a masters degree. Or maybe their supervisor had to really drag such people away from "true programming" and push them hard to write something up.)
Posted Jan 23, 2016 12:56 UTC (Sat)
by pizza (subscriber, #46)
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Oh, that's easy -- Scotland, where only the truest of the true can be found.
Posted Jan 23, 2016 14:35 UTC (Sat)
by corbet (editor, #1)
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Posted Jan 29, 2016 8:51 UTC (Fri)
by marcH (subscriber, #57642)
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Posted Jan 23, 2016 18:56 UTC (Sat)
by trenton (guest, #106520)
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As far as I understood the previous conversation, by saying 'non-merit factors' OP meant things like gender and sexual orientation, which were key factors in OPW candidate selection process. To be honest, I don't think that they 'have been regarded as essential aspects of any complete software project for quite some time', nor they should be regarded as such.
Posted Jan 30, 2016 15:06 UTC (Sat)
by pboddie (guest, #50784)
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My point was that even the things that the OP does not ostensibly regard as having any merit (a separate issue to any "merit" in selection criteria) are actually essential parts of programming and software development, specifically things like documentation (not the other stuff regarding selection criteria, just to repeat myself).
It would be absurd to suggest that gender and sexual orientation are essential aspects of software development, but if anyone appears to believe such a thing, it would be the OP, not me.
(I have nothing to add on the topic of bureaucracy in what amounts to a corporate "slush fund" with a bit of programming being done on the side. My apologies for extending the thread purely to clarify the above.)
Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes
As my final point, I would like to wish you that some day you will understand that KS decision to start consider non-merit factors in open source was a *very* bad thing, which will have profound negative consequences in the future.
Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes
I still think this conversation has little to do with the current change in the Linux Foundation's by-laws, and I still think we would be better off if it wound down. Please, can we let that happen?
Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes
Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes
Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes
Zemlin on the Linux Foundation's by-law changes