Thanksgiving day security updates

Posted Nov 27, 2015 22:38 UTC (Fri) by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
In reply to: Thanksgiving day security updates by nix
Parent article: Thanksgiving day security updates

It puzzles me when they go on about turkey shortages ... if there's a shortage, it'll be NEXT month. And why turkeys either, they're not traditional at all. Beef or Goose for me!!!

Cheers,
Wol

Thanksgiving day security updates

Posted Nov 28, 2015 20:41 UTC (Sat) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link] (4 responses)

Well, turkeys are at least native to the Americas, so that makes sense for here. I don't believe any of them are native to the British Isles though (maybe geese; certainly not bovines).

Thanksgiving day security updates

Posted Nov 29, 2015 11:18 UTC (Sun) by Wol (subscriber, #4433) [Link] (3 responses)

I suspect geese are native. If cattle aren't, where did they come from? Unless, of course, Britain got cut off from the continent before they could migrate across although that seems a bit odd seeing as many of them are very much cold-adapted.

But both of them have been here since probably before England existed, and the Nottingham Goose Fair has been going since the mid 1200s.

Cheers,
Wol

Thanksgiving day security updates

Posted Nov 29, 2015 22:07 UTC (Sun) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link] (2 responses)

Looking it up, Aurochs, the now-extinct ancestor to the domesticated cow, was native to the British Isles, but all of the domesticated ones originate from the Fertile Crescent. I did not find anything on domesticated geese. What species is it when you order "goose"? For pig, cow, sheep, etc., there is only one species we farm with.

Thanksgiving day security updates

Posted Nov 29, 2015 23:45 UTC (Sun) by viro (subscriber, #7872) [Link] (1 responses)

Anser anser, if we are talking about european populations...

Thanksgiving day security updates

Posted Nov 30, 2015 16:18 UTC (Mon) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

Thanks. Looking into this, it seems to be not as definitive as the other animals, but it seems Egypt was the first, which was then crossbred with local populations of geese for the different breeds we have today.