GNU Hurd 0.7, GNU Mach 1.6, GNU MIG 1.6 released

Posted Nov 5, 2015 23:48 UTC (Thu) by khim (subscriber, #9252)
In reply to: GNU Hurd 0.7, GNU Mach 1.6, GNU MIG 1.6 released by sthibaul
Parent article: GNU Hurd 0.7, GNU Mach 1.6, GNU MIG 1.6 released

About FUSE, I have yet to see a system on which the administrator trusted FUSE enough for enabling it for users he doesn't trust.

And I'm yet to see a system on which administrator trusted HURD enough to use it at all! FUSE could be fixed over time. This may not be easy, but this could be done. HURD couldn't be fixed because it's developers don't concentrate on solutions for real-user problems but try to tackle some completely useless abstract ideas.

Randall Munroe thinks that HURD would become useful after the end human civilization but I'm not that hopeful.

The people could waste their time and money on what they want (hey, HURD hacking is still potentially more productive timewaste than things like GTAV), but when HURD is brought up to stop things like systemd... this just makes me sad.

GNU Hurd 0.7, GNU Mach 1.6, GNU MIG 1.6 released

Posted Nov 5, 2015 23:56 UTC (Thu) by sthibaul (✭ supporter ✭, #54477) [Link]

> I'm yet to see a system on which administrator trusted HURD enough to use it at all!

There are several Hurd porterboxes out there, where people can completely safely loop-mount whatever images they wish.

> FUSE could be fixed over time. This may not be easy, but this could be done.

No. The FUSE model will still go through the kernel, and I don't believe we can ever really trust what happens there.

In the Hurd, FS operations are performed between the applications and the FS translator, the kernel is only involved for the generic RPCs.

> it's developers don't concentrate on solutions for real-user problems but try to tackle some completely useless abstract ideas.

This looks just FUDish to me. Did you really read the pages mentioned above or watch one of my presentations?

> when HURD is brought up to stop things like systemd...

That hasn't actually happened.

But I guess I'll just stop wasting my time on trying to convince somebody who apparently just refuses to get convinced.