The State of Fedora: 2015 Edition (Fedora Magazine)

Posted Aug 15, 2015 2:46 UTC (Sat) by dlang (guest, #313)
In reply to: The State of Fedora: 2015 Edition (Fedora Magazine) by johannbg
Parent article: The State of Fedora: 2015 Edition (Fedora Magazine)

Google actually delivers pretty reliable video-conferencing, and they use hangouts internally for this purpose. But it requires that you have a good enough Internet connection and that you have enough server resources managing the conference. Google is happy to sell you enough capacity, they just limit how much they give away for free.

The State of Fedora: 2015 Edition (Fedora Magazine)

Posted Aug 15, 2015 7:24 UTC (Sat) by johannbg (guest, #65743) [Link] (2 responses)

Google does not deliver unlimited number of active participant ( paid or not, no one does ) on it's hangout and that was on 100mb, from both participants, which was not enough to deliver lag free hangout ( so much for reliability ) but let's say goggle delivers and the problem resided in the browser FF or the OS ( Fedora ) or the ISP was mutilating the packages ( this was not black fiber ), you are still having a problems ( scalability/performance/reliability/bandwidth ) which you do not have with IRC.

This already has been tried and tested back in the day, and the project is *still* faced with the same problems,even communication problems ( strong accent, language barriers etc ) and the problem with the board is and always has been one or all of these things it's members, their mindset and Red Hat.

It has never been about not being able to deliver those "high-bandwidth" conversations about "defining" Fedora and it's "target user base" in "technicolour" to the community and in doing so wont solve what needs to be solved in the community.

The State of Fedora: 2015 Edition (Fedora Magazine)

Posted Aug 15, 2015 7:28 UTC (Sat) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link] (1 responses)

Please don't get me wrong, I am very much in favor of text communication when there are a lot of people involved. I've just seen hangouts scale well beyond the "10 person limit" that's been talked about here. That's the limit for the free-to-nonprofits account, not a technical limit. That's the only point I was making.

The State of Fedora: 2015 Edition (Fedora Magazine)

Posted Aug 15, 2015 14:54 UTC (Sat) by mattdm (subscriber, #18) [Link]

Please don't get me wrong, I am very much in favor of text communication when there are a lot of people involved. I've just seen hangouts scale well beyond the "10 person limit" that's been talked about here. That's the limit for the free-to-nonprofits account, not a technical limit. That's the only point I was making.

And to be clear from my side, I'm in favor too. The Fedora Council is using video conferencing for just one meeting a month, and those meetings are a specific type: someone from some aspect of the project (QA, marketing, globalization, etc) giving a presentation (with slides). We also have a working meeting in IRC once a month, to make sure nothing is getting dropped, and two other IRC meetings which are entirely open floor. These are all 17:00 UTC on Monday, in #fedora-meeting on Freenode (and meeting summaries and logs are all available.

All of this wasn't really the main point of my talk, anyway, but hey, we work with the pull-quotes we get. :) I brought this up mostly because I think few people realize the (crazy?) amount of effort that the Fedora community puts into collaboration and communication, and I wanted to show it off, and also, I want us collectively to work on making that more visible in general in the future. The video aspect is maybe part of that, and I hope my 5tFTW posts help, and a planned contributor-news blog (Fedora Planet is too unfocused; Fedora Magazine is aimed at users). And we also have a more grandiose plan in progress — Fedora Hubs.