The end for Mandriva

Posted May 27, 2015 20:46 UTC (Wed) by branden (guest, #7029)
In reply to: The end for Mandriva by kloczek
Parent article: The end for Mandriva

return -EPARSE;

The end for Mandriva

Posted May 27, 2015 22:38 UTC (Wed) by cesarb (subscriber, #6266) [Link] (12 responses)

I think he's blaming ALSA for the end of Mandriva.

"(As long as ((Linux lost his combat about desktops) by (broken by design ALSA))) ((end of Mandriva) was obvious consequence)."

That is, ALSA -> no Year Of The Linux Desktop -> end of Mandriva.

The end for Mandriva

Posted May 27, 2015 22:48 UTC (Wed) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (2 responses)

Yeah. Everyone knows that only Mandriva used ALSA: everyone else is using the widely-supported thoroughly free and well-designed OSS4. See? Obvious!

(when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a conspiracy, and kloczek clearly *really likes* the long-obsoleted OSS4...)

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Posted May 27, 2015 23:05 UTC (Wed) by kloczek (guest, #6391) [Link] (1 responses)

Of course only Mandriva failed on desktops. Isn't it?

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Posted May 27, 2015 23:29 UTC (Wed) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link]

Plenty of desktop products have failed including "Java Desktop System".

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Posted May 27, 2015 23:05 UTC (Wed) by sfeam (subscriber, #2841) [Link] (8 responses)

Which would be weird, because ALSA worked fine on Mandriva. It was pulseaudio that broke Mandriva's sound support when it arrived :-)

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Posted May 27, 2015 23:08 UTC (Wed) by kloczek (guest, #6391) [Link] (7 responses)

Lack of in-kernel software mixer few years caused complete fail Linux on desktops.

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Posted May 27, 2015 23:23 UTC (Wed) by sfeam (subscriber, #2841) [Link]

Mandriva had a user-space sound demon that mediated multiple-source sound input. I do not know if other distro desktops had an equivalent, but it worked fine for me. Better than the early version of pulseaudio that eventually replaced it.

Even now there is no in-kernel audio mixer that I know of. Why would you need one?

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Posted May 27, 2015 23:25 UTC (Wed) by flussence (guest, #85566) [Link]

dmix worked fine for me in 2004. PEBKAC.

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Posted May 28, 2015 5:54 UTC (Thu) by bandrami (guest, #94229) [Link] (4 responses)

Why on earth would I (or anyone) want to do audio mixing in Ring 0?

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Posted May 28, 2015 10:08 UTC (Thu) by SimonKagstrom (guest, #49801) [Link]

Because it gives meaning to lyrics such as

"I fell into a burning ring of fire,
I went down, down, down as the flames went higher
And it burns, burns, burns,
The ring of fire, the ring of fire."

;-)

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Posted May 28, 2015 13:51 UTC (Thu) by ms_43 (subscriber, #99293) [Link] (2 responses)

Ask the FreeBSD developers why they are doing exactly that.

Just think about the possibilities, GNU/Linux could be as successful as FreeBSD on the desktop if only audio hadn't been made gratuitously complex with user-space mixing.

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Posted May 28, 2015 17:39 UTC (Thu) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link] (1 responses)

> Just think about the possibilities, GNU/Linux could be as successful as FreeBSD on the desktop if only audio hadn't been made gratuitously complex with user-space mixing.
/me looks at Internet traffic statistics.

Linux Desktop - 1%
FreeBSD+NetBSD+OpenBSD - 0.05%

You know, I think you're totally correct!

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Posted May 29, 2015 8:31 UTC (Fri) by nhippi (subscriber, #34640) [Link]

I think he's totally sarcastic