GNOME 3.16 released
| From: | Matthias Clasen <matthias.clasen-AT-gmail.com> | |
| To: | devel-announce-list-AT-gnome.org, gnome-announce-list-AT-gnome.org | |
| Subject: | GNOME 3.16 released | |
| Date: | Wed, 25 Mar 2015 11:21:16 -0400 | |
| Message-ID: | <CAFwd_vBqN9ozh3TZm89xZBvRTj2TSU3fQqw0XXSjm1eUBnPBNA__15610.609696205$1427297161$gmane$org@mail.gmail.com> |
The GNOME Project is proud to announce the release of GNOME 3.16. This is another exciting release for GNOME, and brings many new features and improvements, including redesigned notifications, a new shell theme, new scrollbars, and a refresh for the file manager. 3.16 also includes improvements to the Image Viewer, Music, Photos and Videos. We are also including three new preview apps for the first time: Books, Calendar and Characters. The login screen is now using Wayland by default. For more information about the changes in GNOME 3.16, you can visit the release notes: https://help.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/3.16/ GNOME 3.16 will be available shortly in many distributions. Live images of GNOME 3.16 are available too. https://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/ https://download.gnome.org/misc/promo-usb/gnome-3.16.iso These images are based on openSUSE. To try the very latest developments in GNOME, you can also use the VM disk images that are produced by the gnome-continuous build system. https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeContinuous This six months' effort wouldn't have been possible without the whole GNOME community, made of contributors and friends from all around the world: developers, designers, documentation writers, usability and accessibility specialists, translators, maintainers, students, system administrators, companies, artists, testers and last, not least, users. GNOME would not exist without all of you. Thank you to everyone! Our next release, GNOME 3.18, is expected for September 2015. Until then, enjoy GNOME 3.16! The GNOME Release Team -- devel-announce-list mailing list devel-announce-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/devel-announce-list
Posted Mar 25, 2015 22:13 UTC (Wed)
by GhePeU (subscriber, #56133)
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Posted Mar 25, 2015 22:16 UTC (Wed)
by scientes (guest, #83068)
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Posted Mar 25, 2015 22:43 UTC (Wed)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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> Instead of being shown all the time, the UI components are only shown when needed: a small box showing the underlying controls follows the mouse pointer, and a larger box appears when a mouse is pressed. This creates a cleaner, less distracting view, which helps you to achieve the pure Zen while staring at pure unblemished whiteness of your screen.
Posted Mar 25, 2015 23:01 UTC (Wed)
by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389)
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Damn. I wanted black. I guess we'll need a fork.
Posted Mar 25, 2015 23:27 UTC (Wed)
by bojan (subscriber, #14302)
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Well, to end to be honest, I'm glad the notifications finally got reworked to something resembling normality. If only there was actually a notification about notifications... I know, I know. It will come later. It is difficult to do etc.
Posted Mar 25, 2015 23:39 UTC (Wed)
by hirnbrot (guest, #89469)
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Posted Mar 25, 2015 23:54 UTC (Wed)
by bojan (subscriber, #14302)
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This is a little bit like that Windows corner (i.e. missing Start button) on Windows 8.0, which has been reverted. The disappearing tricks may be cute if you're a magician, but they get old pretty quickly when you have to work. IMHO etc.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 0:33 UTC (Thu)
by welinder (guest, #4699)
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And they still don't work to this day.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 2:46 UTC (Thu)
by robinst (guest, #61173)
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Also, when is the last time you actually clicked on the scroll bar instead of using a scroll wheel or two-finger scrolling?
(Off-topic: Go to https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/309g0w/gnome_316_... if you want to read some constructive comments. I really wish I could up/downvote comments on LWN.)
Posted Mar 26, 2015 6:15 UTC (Thu)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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Besides, scrollbars show position within a document and even on small screens they take very little space (a letter-width).
Posted Mar 26, 2015 7:20 UTC (Thu)
by robinst (guest, #61173)
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Fair enough. That will still work with GNOME 3.16.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 7:46 UTC (Thu)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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Posted Mar 26, 2015 11:45 UTC (Thu)
by ebassi (subscriber, #54855)
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Posted Mar 26, 2015 15:16 UTC (Thu)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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Another annoyingly common use-case is to scroll past a long article in the browser to get to the comments section.
PgDown you say? On a tablet?
Posted Mar 26, 2015 18:21 UTC (Thu)
by ebassi (subscriber, #54855)
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Somehow I doubt that, since on all my touch-only devices (either using iOS or using Android) I never, ever use a scroll bar to scroll around a large content area, or for a paginated content. I'd be hard pressed to interact with those scrollbars in the first place, since they are mostly just indicators. True, though: GNOME is not great on a tablet, right now.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 18:51 UTC (Thu)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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So yes, this change is business as usual for GNOME. I.e. they remove useful features just to be 'nicer' while missing the point.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 19:12 UTC (Thu)
by coulamac (guest, #21690)
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Relatedly, over the past few releases, there tended to be complaints about the notification system. So, the GNOME developers listened, gave the matter some thought, and revamped the notification system to make it better and to resolve some of the complaints. (And they're still working on it.) In the comments here, no one has said, "Hey! That's great! They listened and are improving an area that was identified as being problematic." Silence. Just complaints about scrollbars and how GNOME developers maliciously change things.
Thanks for the great release and all the hard work.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 23:46 UTC (Thu)
by bojan (subscriber, #14302)
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The can win, all right. They just need to stop copying silly stuff from the Mac.
This one is particularly annoying (as you can read from many replies) to folks that would like to see where in the document they are (because the doc may have similar sections, for instance, and the position identifies what is being viewed/edited etc.), want to scroll very quickly to a particular section of the document (because they've used that doc a million times before and remember roughly where stuff they need is) without the fiddly "slow down around the edge so that scrollbar shows" action.
This one is a bit like that annoying thing in Lollipop when you press the multitasking button. The windows come up, but then it takes several seconds for the crosses to appear in the top right corners. So, you either have to wait for them or swipe instead (which may not be your preferred way of closing apps), but of which are annoying.
Posted Mar 27, 2015 16:21 UTC (Fri)
by dashesy (guest, #74652)
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Posted Mar 29, 2015 2:37 UTC (Sun)
by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389)
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Posted Mar 26, 2015 20:36 UTC (Thu)
by paulj (subscriber, #341)
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Posted Mar 29, 2015 2:42 UTC (Sun)
by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389)
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Posted Mar 31, 2015 20:41 UTC (Tue)
by robbe (guest, #16131)
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Posted Mar 26, 2015 7:22 UTC (Thu)
by robinst (guest, #61173)
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In an application that uses multiple scrollable components such as Eclipse, that space adds up.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 7:38 UTC (Thu)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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Posted Mar 26, 2015 12:27 UTC (Thu)
by pboddie (guest, #50784)
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We shouldn't be surprised that the Unity variant of this misfeature was motivated by - that's right - Eclipse! Back when I studied what was then known as "human-computer interaction" (and still have the large text book), the notion of "affordances" - that you can guess what something does by how it manifests itself - was central to the design of a successful interface. Although the "design" crowd loves to shout down anyone who writes code (because we know nothing about usability, apparently), their tendency to neglect the basics should be noted, particularly by those who see a "nifty" new feature and decide to copy what appears to be a "validated" concept for their own project. Having actually watched people struggle with initially-invisible scrollbars, where the people concerned were obviously not part of the select few chosen to "validate" the idea (that audience probably being the instigators of the idea and knowing exactly what to expect), I regard such things as a betrayal of users with less than optimal eyesight and motor skills. When you have to tell people to squint at the edge of one featureless slab on top of another to be aware that there may be more content off-screen (and apologise for having to do so), and then tell them to aim for a tiny area of the screen (and apologise for having to do so, admittedly a problem with conventional scrollbars as well), you soon get the feeling that any testing probably didn't involve a very diverse group of people or involved a lot of projection onto the participants. Usability is a tiresome discipline if done right, which is why it annoys me a great deal when people use the discipline as a way of undermining or rejecting criticism, only for it to be shown that they cut corners and are just using the banner of usability to showcase their "design" ideas.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 22:39 UTC (Thu)
by deepfire (guest, #26138)
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You just described how I started feeling about the Gnome 3 thing, ever
Posted Mar 26, 2015 22:57 UTC (Thu)
by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
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http://opensource-usability.blogspot.com/2015/03/hands-on...
Has some concrete suggestions.
Posted Mar 27, 2015 17:54 UTC (Fri)
by pboddie (guest, #50784)
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Sigh! Beyond this "three seashells" fad, before long I fully expect everybody being obliged to swipe from the edges to see essential controls on screens large enough to show them by default, because someone has decided that it is "clean design" or whatever (and because Apple does it that way). When I mentioned that usability is tiresome, I was being serious. My brief introduction to it covered things like properly-controlled experiments and things you'd get in disciplines like psychology - not surprising, given that HCI (as it was known) is multidisciplinary - which generally doesn't appeal to a lot of people. I agree with the author's views on the URL bar. The tendency to withhold that really does undermine people's expectations about how things like browsers work, and I've seen people struggle with that on KDE (where you sometimes need the "gear" menu - soon to be the three seashells, perhaps - to reveal the URL bar). I imagine that he will run his observations by some testers, as he apparently did before, but it might have been better if people had tried to foresee such problems.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 9:38 UTC (Thu)
by NAR (subscriber, #1313)
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I also used the scrollbar just minutes ago on the "Unread comments" page to scroll back to this comment.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 10:52 UTC (Thu)
by ibukanov (subscriber, #3942)
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I am curious, how do you know where to navigate? Do you rely on memory or just do a fast scroll to locate the content? I use Ctrl-f with browsers and incremental search with emacs for navigation in big documents if I know the keywords. If not, then two-fingers-scrolling on a touchpad or using a mouse weal is fast enough for me.
> scrollbars show position within a document and even on small screens they take very little space (a letter-width).
Typically an editor shows an exact line or percentage from the top in any case, so scrollbars does not provide any extra information and I disable them with emacs or shell. However I do agree that on a typical desktop/laptop screen a vertical scroll in a maximized window bar does not waste anything as it occupies the space where there is no text.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 13:08 UTC (Thu)
by tao (subscriber, #17563)
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With page up/down surrounding the cursor keys on the laptop it's not a big issue, but on the desktop computer the scrollbars are really nice to have. Using a scroll wheel is definitely not fast enough, since it scrolls a few lines at most. I know that there are mice with tons of buttons and fancy hoopla, but for my hands a rather small and simplistic 3-button mouse is most suitable.
Searching for text is easy and best left to the computer. Searching for images or patterns is something the human brain is better at and benefits from a quick-scanning work flow (well, the computer is probably better at image/pattern recognition too, but there's no sensible way to quickly describe to the computer what it should be looking for).
This change doesn't remove the scrollbars though, so I'm not really worried about losing that use-case. As far as document position though; browsers don't show position on the web page, nor do, for instance, the scrollback buffer in terminals (admittedly I have the scrollbar disabled in terminals anyway, so that's not really relevant for me).
[1] Nor do I use the touchpad on my laptop, for that matter; having a touchpad just to do scrolling while controlling the mouse pointer the way it's intended -- the trackpoint -- just doesn't make sense.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 15:14 UTC (Thu)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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> Typically an editor shows an exact line or percentage from the top in any case
Posted Mar 29, 2015 2:43 UTC (Sun)
by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389)
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Uzbl does :) .
Posted Mar 26, 2015 7:13 UTC (Thu)
by fredrik (subscriber, #232)
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My concern is that this new size-changing effect on scrollbars will be as focus disrupting as Ubuntu's overlay scrollbars. One of the first things I do after an upgrade is:
Now, I haven't tried Gnome 3.16 yet, I'll leave my final judgement til then.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 7:29 UTC (Thu)
by robinst (guest, #61173)
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I think so, yes. There's a video here: https://blogs.gnome.org/mclasen/2014/10/23/an-early-view-...
> My concern is that this new size-changing effect on scrollbars will be as focus disrupting as Ubuntu's overlay scrollbars. One of the first things I do after an upgrade is:
I did the same when I was still on Ubuntu. AFAIR though, the scrollbar was shown outside of the window, which was really confusing.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 11:54 UTC (Thu)
by ebassi (subscriber, #54855)
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The overlaid scrollbars in GTK+ 3.16 are pointedly not like the Ubuntu ones — they are overlaid on top of the content, not outside of the window, and they do not cause a resize of the content area. They change appearance from simple indicators of the current position of the scrolled region to interacting UI elements depending on whether the pointer is close to them or not. Also, one of the major reasons why people disabled the Ubuntu scrollbars was that they were fairly buggy; they poked at the internals of GTK+, and usually broke every time the toolkit was refactored internally. Canonical is also going to drop the overlay scrollbars as soon as they can switch to GTK+ 3.16 — which is planned for Ubuntu 15.10, at this point (source).
Posted Mar 26, 2015 9:21 UTC (Thu)
by bandrami (guest, #94229)
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You don't read and navigate large documents often, do you?
Posted Mar 26, 2015 11:47 UTC (Thu)
by ebassi (subscriber, #54855)
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That's why I use search, page up/down, or a trackpad with kinetic scrolling, instead of trying to pinpoint the precise location by pinning a tail on a small scrollbar.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 22:47 UTC (Thu)
by deepfire (guest, #26138)
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So, that is a way that works for you. Good!
What isn't, and actually is even offensive, it's the implication that
Gnome folks have a very clear track record of such attitude.
Posted Mar 27, 2015 12:23 UTC (Fri)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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And like many people, my wife is not well - ageing plays havoc with memory and many illnesses exacerbate that - so the *last* thing she needs is gratuitous changes happening underneath her! Having been trained as a typist, I sometimes now need to help her even to use a keyboard! because she's forgotten how - how on earth can she be expected to remember how all this new stuff works!?
Cheers,
Posted Mar 28, 2015 19:10 UTC (Sat)
by suckfish (guest, #69919)
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I don't see that you gain *useful* space:
For landscape layout monitors, I find that height is the dimension that is at a premium, not width.
So the space recovered by making vertical scroll bars disappear is not particularly useful.
Horizontal scrollbars I find appear for two reasons: either a layout done badly (broken web sites) or else paning through a large diagram/image (in which case you probably actually want the scrollbars visible). In both cases, making the horizontal scrollbar disappear is not what is needed.
I used the ubuntu implementation of this for a while and just found it annoying. Maybe the gnome people have done a better job, I haven't used it yet.
Posted Mar 26, 2015 13:52 UTC (Thu)
by mvetter (guest, #101668)
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With the move to Wayland as the default display mechanism, it seems client-side decorations will become the norm in Gnome. This has a downside, as features present in Mutter are in effect getting removed. For example, vertical maximization (very handy for terminals) got shafted:
I don't wish to disparage Gnome devs, but the above bz looks very much like a bait-and-switch maneuver. Stuff that worked for eons in Mutter is suddenly labeled as "never supported by GTK". Seriously?
Posted Mar 26, 2015 20:11 UTC (Thu)
by pbonzini (subscriber, #60935)
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Posted Mar 26, 2015 22:51 UTC (Thu)
by deepfire (guest, #26138)
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This excuse that, "it wasn't even there" is laughable, in this context.
Seriously, take a look at it from aside..
Posted Mar 27, 2015 12:12 UTC (Fri)
by ovitters (guest, #27950)
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Posted Mar 29, 2015 4:50 UTC (Sun)
by ploxiln (subscriber, #58395)
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Might as well tell people to use Mate or XFCE, it's pretty good advice, and you'll get less criticism from people who gnome no longer targets.
Posted Mar 29, 2015 19:33 UTC (Sun)
by dashesy (guest, #74652)
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Posted Mar 27, 2015 12:28 UTC (Fri)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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Do you mean Wayland? Where one of the lead devs is the guy who was pretty much the SOLE dev of XFree86 towards the end ... ? And is the guy in charge of Xorg ... ?
From what I know of Wayland, all the X functionality is available if you run X over Wayland (or Wayland over X). Large chunks of X "don't work" properly, anyway. And pretty much all of the X use-cases that people want are catered for within Wayland - if they don't exist it's because nobody considers them important enough to step up to the plate and code them.
Cheers,
Posted Mar 30, 2015 21:44 UTC (Mon)
by deepfire (guest, #26138)
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I doubt it's fundamental, and yet.. so far it's second class -- FWIW.
Posted Mar 27, 2015 14:32 UTC (Fri)
by paulj (subscriber, #341)
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E.g., the client-side decoration stuff doesn't work well with other X11 WMs (resizing isn't there, e.g.). It can also look inconsistent with the WM. Unfortunately, GTK3 CSD seems to cause some WMs to not paint their own decorations. There is a global setting to disable some of the CSD stuff in GTK3, but it doesn't undo the "don't paint decorations" thing (least not with WindowMaker - which I went back to) - so then you get windows with no decorations at all.
I wish I knew how GTK3 was suppressing the WM decorations, but I don't see anything obvious in xprops.
The breakage and upheaval the GNOME / GTK 3 project has forced upon the Linux desktop, even beyond GNOME has been sad.
Posted Mar 27, 2015 6:01 UTC (Fri)
by mvetter (guest, #101668)
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This is not about whether something was or wasn't in Wayland or GTK. This is about a feature that has worked for many years, and now all of a sudden it doesn't. It's a regression.
I don't quite understand what processes have led to the disappearance of a widely used feature.
Posted Mar 27, 2015 7:52 UTC (Fri)
by tao (subscriber, #17563)
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Posted Mar 29, 2015 4:29 UTC (Sun)
by h2 (guest, #27965)
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Gnome's attitude about this stuff is clear and obvious, so why do people use it when it's so clearly not suited for them? I am not talking about the people it is suited for, why they use it makes total sense, but is someone holding a gun to your heads forcing you to use something you don't like? KDE has controls, they have settings, they don't insult me by forcing me to do scripting to do a simple adjustment (does gnome terminal remember its last closed position and size yet? That always struck me as the most surreal failure of gnome, but of course, since I have no interest in gnome itself, I never check to see what works and what doesn't.
The entire notion of making a desktop into a mobile interface is stupid, it's stupid in html/css 'responsive design', which is ruining formerly good websites one by one, steadily (unless I run it, then I refuse to scr#w over our users that way), this is so profoundly and utterly confused conceptually that it's hard to put into words. A tiny crippled touch screen interface is not a desktop with a keyboard and mouse, and pretending it is is just silly. Which is of course why kde made their mobile and desktop projects as separate chunks of the kde system. That's a smart way to do it, and it's why I use kde.
Again, I don't care about gnome, and if you like it, you like it, but for the people endlessly complaining about feature x or y being removed, yes, that happens, and it's been the gnome way for ages, so why be so surprised? Or is it because so many posters here work at redhat and have to eat the dogfood? That's my personal guess, otherwise people would just find a better desktop and go on their way, it really works well that way, kde won't really change their basic ideas from what I see, it's a powerful, configurable desktop, panels all over, you want em, you got em, top, left, right, center, whatever you want. I've had very little pain switching to 4x from 3x, some stuff took a while to come back, but the project listens to its users when they ask for stuff, maybe that's because it's not run by redhat types? who knows.
Posted Mar 29, 2015 4:51 UTC (Sun)
by h2 (guest, #27965)
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Smaller projects like xfce tried it too and had issues, you can see how hard it is.
So that's my guess as to why things like this happen, not because of some usability bs that someone in the gnome project makes up, but simply because it's hard to do, and may point to other weaknesses in the core system, which has always had a lot of trouble doing the simplest things (like remembering last open window size) that windows 95 had solid in 1995. Each to their own, whatever. As for copying osx, man, that's a bad idea, you want choices that are NOT osx, not to copy it, osx is awful, although if I want to be perverse I can emulate it in kde if I want, but why? The only thing worse than osx is a bad osx copy.
Posted Mar 29, 2015 14:11 UTC (Sun)
by paulj (subscriber, #341)
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The CSD changes are and (I strongly suspect) the scrollbar changes will be in GTK+3. Every user of those applications is affected, regardless of whether they use GNOME or not.
E.g., I finally went back to WindowMaker after 12 odd years (or more? not quite sure) of using GNOME or GNOME-based windowmagers. The CSD changes in GTK3 don't work properly with other WMs (maybe just older ones, but damned if I can find what I need to add support to wmaker for to make this work). If you disable CSD in GTK3 globally, it still doesn't work properly with other/older WMs.
These changes are just not affecting GNOME users - apps and interoperability is being broken across desktop environments.
Posted Mar 29, 2015 16:39 UTC (Sun)
by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458)
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If many complain, it is because they use it (and thus find others somehow worse).
Posted Mar 30, 2015 11:00 UTC (Mon)
by johannbg (guest, #65743)
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The answer to that question is distributions defaults.
Now why most distributions have chosen ( historically or otherwise ) Gnome as their default desktop environments, an environment that is in continues beta state beats me. ( Well why Fedora does it is pretty obvious *cough Red Hat cough* ).
Posted Mar 30, 2015 12:44 UTC (Mon)
by cesarb (subscriber, #6266)
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My guess: it's because Qt wasn't Free Software, so GTK and GNOME became the "Linux desktop" default. In other words, path dependence.
Posted Mar 30, 2015 13:37 UTC (Mon)
by johannbg (guest, #65743)
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So that's no excuse for distribution ( still ) defaulting to a desktop environment that is in continues beta stage with an unstable UI which is an result of broken development process and or release cycle.
One could say obviously distribution defaulting and gathering feedback for the Gnome community is not paying of since it's still being released just as half implemented (this release wayland/ accessibility/ui design etc, ) as it was those 15 years ago.
Instead of being shown all the time, these new overlay scrollbars are only shown when needed: a small scroll indicator is shown when the pointer is moved, and a larger bar appears when control is wanted. This creates a cleaner, less distracting view, which helps you to focus on window content.
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I can't even begin to quantify the days, the months!, I've lost staring at those distracting scrollbars, always there, unmoving, on the right side of every window, challenging me to ignore them. Thank you, GNOME Project, suddenly my life makes sense.
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A couple of minutes ago to quickly navigate within a 1MB HTML document?
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> A couple of minutes ago to quickly navigate within a 1MB HTML document?
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The Unity experience
The Unity experience
> it annoys me a great deal when people use the discipline as
> a way of undermining or rejecting criticism, only for it to be shown that
> they cut corners and are just using the banner of usability
> to showcase their "design" ideas.
since I started trying to use it and encountered the wall
of "my way or highway" attitude from McCann et al.
The Unity experience
The Unity experience
A new "three lines" icon replaces the gear menu for the drop-down menu. This "three lines" menu icon is more common in other applications, including those on Mac OS X and Windows, so the new menu icon should be easier to find.
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Just like with a book, I remember a rough location and then scroll to the precise position.
And what about a browser?
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> And what about a browser?
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apt-get purge overlay-scrollbar
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> apt-get purge overlay-scrollbar
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> scrolling, instead of trying to pinpoint the precise location by
> pinning a tail on a small scrollbar.
the fact it works for you somehow is invited to mean that it invalidates
the /different/ ways other people operate with their computers.
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Wol
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> That is very much appreciated by people with smaller screens, such as me.
feature removal due to Wayland
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=746273
feature removal due to Wayland
feature removal due to Wayland
note, doesn't even meet well established use cases, isn't shoved down our throats.. ..again.
feature removal due to Wayland
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note, doesn't even meet well established use cases, isn't shoved down our throats.. ..again.
Wol
feature removal due to Wayland
feature removal due to Wayland
feature removal due to Wayland
"They're not getting removed, they never were there (in Wayland) in the first place."
feature removal due to Wayland
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( For example have a look at Fedora [1] where other options to Gnome have always been buried in the background through poorly visible/hard to find links to alternatives )
feature removal due to Wayland
feature removal due to Wayland
( Arguably with things growing worse since the emerging of the UI designers in the community )