Apple has a history with gcc.

You say "proprietary code" is "sometimes a valid choice". I think I understand your position, yet I have no example to back up your position, so "Cyberax", I continue to hold your position is weak, pathetic, subversive and clandestinely premised.

By "proprietary code licensing is a valid choice", do you mean that your creativity is insufficient to otherwise provide for your survival by working commercially with libre/ copyleft licensed code, software stacks and corporations, and yet that your creativity is just high enough to eek out a survival by commercially licensing your code as proprietary?

I guess living in a world of amazing people, awesome opportunities and endless creativity in ethical and honourable abundance is just not your cup o' tea then eh?

Poor soul indeed ... locked in proprietary worlds of survival of the fittest, paucity of ideas and the meager supplicating 'protections' racket provided by those "awesome" government statute laws (that which creates proprietary monopoly rights at all).

Since you have no statutory right to combine "your proprietary code" with copyleft licensed code, your remaining option is to exercise your creativity to code without or wrest some yet-unexploited blood from the rock of BSD-licensed code, locking your results in a vault of survival from this cold, cruel world - might as well stand on the shoulders of some giant eh?

Now this looks like it ought to be sarcasm:
> Ok, I'm back. Another social compact is destroyed,
> another community ruined and the world has become
> just a little bit more cruel. A nice day, all in all.

- Usually, when an LWN poster uses sarcasm, there's a refreshing, insightful, cutting and/ or poignant insight behind such use. Instead we see here pretense of sophistication masking belligerence - don't get me wrong and I grant s/he may have missed it, "I do respect your right to your opinion", but on the one hand Cyberax decries a principled approach ("forcing your ideology") to choosing how to develop software and/or a software stack, and yet he/she is unrelenting, unbalanced and contradictory in his/her own position... pretty sad effort really.

I take us back to "Cyberax"'s "glorious victory":
> Why would I use a package that forces me to disclose my proprietary code?
> Even more, it might actually deny me some business models.
> The only answer is: "This package is indispensable". Right now
> there are basically no such relevant packages anymore.
> That's a glorious victory, methinks.

I called him on his/her sociopathic position, and he/she uses sarcasm to try and laugh it off thus:
> the world has become just a little bit more cruel.
> A nice day, all in all.

Exactly how does sarcasm either justify or rationally brush off that sociopathic position, "Cyberax"?

Zenaan