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Posted Mar 5, 2015 17:31 UTC (Thu) by jra (subscriber, #55261)Parent article: A GPL-enforcement suit against VMware
http://sfconservancy.org/linux-compliance/vmware-lawsuit-...
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Posted Mar 5, 2015 18:53 UTC (Thu)
by rworkman (guest, #47472)
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Posted Mar 5, 2015 19:08 UTC (Thu)
by tbm (subscriber, #7049)
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Posted Mar 5, 2015 19:18 UTC (Thu)
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Posted Mar 5, 2015 19:25 UTC (Thu)
by gutschke (subscriber, #27910)
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Will donors receive the necessary paperwork to file for tax deductions? Do they have to contact the Conservancy for that, or is this going to happen automatically?
Posted Mar 5, 2015 19:40 UTC (Thu)
by tbm (subscriber, #7049)
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You'll automatically receive a donation confirmation by email when you make a donation.
Posted Mar 5, 2015 19:44 UTC (Thu)
by ersi (guest, #64521)
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If you're reluctant to donate because you don't know anything about the Software Freedom Conservancy - please read http://sfconservancy.org/about/ and/or take my word for it :-) (Seriously - this is a worthy organization and cause.)
To the SFC: It'd be great if you could.. you know, use some other payment provider other than PayPal - if possible and at not too large of an cost to you. There's unfortunately plenty of reasons to avoid dealing with PayPal Inc.
Posted Mar 8, 2015 4:58 UTC (Sun)
by marcH (subscriber, #57642)
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There are plenty of banks in various countries that let you do [reasonably small] transfers for nothing or next to nothing. For instance I have a standing order to donate to Wikipedia, costs no one anything.
Payment systems like credit cards are designed completely backwards. Giving your numbers to all merchants and trying to keep them secret at the same time does not make any kind of sense. Then you need to spend a lot of money on middlemen to keep the system "secure" with unreliable heuristics. Mad.
Now that there more mobile phones than people (at least in all developed countries - soon everywhere), securing payments is dead simple. The system just needs to be reversed: the merchant/charity/receiver publishes a money mailbox ID. Buyers and givers connect securely to their bank and request a transfer. Problem solved. Points to secure: from thousands down to a single one: the communication with your bank, which obviously must be secure *anyway*.
The craziest of all: all this is working *already*. I am already paying or giving like this on regular basis. This only needs to be optimized and generalized, that's all. There clearly has to be middlemen not interested in making payments simpler and more secure.
Posted Mar 8, 2015 8:46 UTC (Sun)
by marcH (subscriber, #57642)
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Alternatively, payment terminals which are almost all already connected could be converted to dumber pipes to let smart cards securely call back their respective home; another possible way to trigger the payment from the source.
I should just stop dreaming and putting banks and innovation in the same text. Instead let's just wait until Apple and/or Google become banks and everything will be fixed automagically.
Posted Mar 27, 2015 16:46 UTC (Fri)
by nileshtrivedi (guest, #95332)
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This is exactly how my country (India)'s IMPS (Instant Mobile Payment System) works. Every bank account (consumer and merchant alike) gets a 7-digit ID which you can publicise along with your 10-digit mobile number. Using these two pieces of info, anyone can make a payment through web/ATM/mobile and even SMS. Money is transferred instantly, both the parties receive an instant SMS notification confirming the transaction and this system works 24x7x365. You don't even have to reveal the bank account number!
Posted Mar 27, 2015 17:48 UTC (Fri)
by marcH (subscriber, #57642)
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Neat, thanks for sharing.
As the world leader, the USA are at the cutting-edge of so many things. But when they're not, they seem to be fairly bad at shopping around and adopting foreign solutions. Not enough neighbors/too much water around? I heard the Romans were more flexible back in the day...
Posted Mar 8, 2015 10:57 UTC (Sun)
by njwhite (guest, #51848)
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Posted Mar 8, 2015 13:45 UTC (Sun)
by pboddie (guest, #50784)
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But then we're talking about US banks here, who appear to be even more backward than British banks on such matters (although perhaps not more dishonest, as British banks seem to deliberately price Euro transactions prohibitively in order to not have to offer competitive SEPA transfers).
I also think that IBAN isn't a widely-offered donation option because of the perverse security implications of publishing account details for US bank accounts, whereas in other parts of the world people can publish such details and not have random criminals dip into their accounts.
Posted Mar 8, 2015 13:54 UTC (Sun)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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Posted Mar 9, 2015 11:05 UTC (Mon)
by jezuch (subscriber, #52988)
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Oh boy. I once tried to buy a CD from a foreign publisher and the only payment method available was via international bank transfer. I was feeling courageous so I went ahead with this. The price was in Euros, which was something like 70 PLN (already quite a lot; the usual price is 50 to 60 PLN for foreign CDs, still not very cheap for this post-communist country). The transfer form was swimming in an acronym soup. There was supposedly and explanation attached, so I tried to select the options that seemed to make sense, completely unaware that there is a "standard" combination that is mostly free of additional charges, but it was mentioned in a way understandable only to bankers. So I clicked "done" and was soon informed that there were two additional fees added to my transfer (don't remember exactly what they were): one amounted to 50 PLN, the other to 80 PLN, which made the price of the CD 200 PLN. I made a complaint to the bank, but it was rejected because "I was sufficiently informed" about all the options.
And the funny part: the CD never arrived :)
So... no, thank you. Bank transfers are so stupid easy between banks in Poland that payment by credit card on the Internet is really rare here. I wish international transfers were just as easy.
Posted Mar 9, 2015 11:08 UTC (Mon)
by jezuch (subscriber, #52988)
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I forgot to add: there also are no fees and cuts involved. At least my bank never took one.
Posted Mar 9, 2015 14:34 UTC (Mon)
by pboddie (guest, #50784)
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So, when people should be choosing "shared costs" (or whatever the terminology actually is), they start to worry about the recipient incurring costs, and particularly when the recipient is some business whose customer relations people are either ignorant or simply fools (who probably also give the potential customer a lecture about how they don't want to be paying any transfer costs, and so the customer had better sort it out themselves), they become cautious and choose the traditionally acceptable "sender pays all costs", which excludes it from SEPA rules and, because banks are banks, makes it special and expensive.
Oddly enough, my bank actually makes the low-cost transfer the default option and calls it something that sounds as if it's the thing people want. Maybe, given the partial state ownership, some politicians got stung once or twice and brought their rage to bear on the chief executive, however.
Posted Mar 12, 2015 15:31 UTC (Thu)
by mstefani (guest, #31644)
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But be aware that is not a true German bank account of the Conservancy; it costed me 15 EUR per transaction even though it was an in country wire for me. This makes it feasible only for bigger donations.
Posted Mar 5, 2015 22:13 UTC (Thu)
by PaulWay (guest, #45600)
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Keep up the good work,
Paul
Posted Mar 6, 2015 14:16 UTC (Fri)
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Posted Mar 7, 2015 19:48 UTC (Sat)
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Posted Mar 7, 2015 20:56 UTC (Sat)
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Posted Mar 7, 2015 21:42 UTC (Sat)
by marcH (subscriber, #57642)
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Some euro account is most likely going to be required at some point anyway - again unless they want to waste a lot in bank charges.
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