Fedora 21 released
Fedora 21 released
Posted Dec 9, 2014 20:35 UTC (Tue) by dowdle (subscriber, #659)In reply to: Fedora 21 released by hadrons123
Parent article: Fedora 21 released
It should also be noted that even with some observed limitations, the gross affect is still quite positive and beneficial to the entire Linux ecosystem.
Posted Dec 9, 2014 21:29 UTC (Tue)
by johannbg (guest, #65743)
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That insanity is the "fantasy" Red Hat wanted everyone in with the DVD and now want with their "products".
And while you bless and praise the shitty corporate oppression of Red Hat let me remind that the community had to fight for the multi live dvd to be able to at least present community products at various events since it's not like those community made products was on the front page of the project on par with Gnome and the DVD all those years.
The fact is community maintained components and products have *always* been put into second class compared to Red Hat's own components and products in Fedora
Posted Dec 10, 2014 11:45 UTC (Wed)
by fandom (subscriber, #4028)
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As a KDE user since it was in beta, my reaction to this is: so what?
This is free software, people, and corporations, focus on whatever it is they want to focus.
The same way I get to choose which projects I contribute to and what I want to do about it, including abandoning them, Red Hat, has every right to focus on whatever they want.
You think they are wrong? Well, so what? It is their inalienable right to be wrong.
Posted Dec 10, 2014 18:07 UTC (Wed)
by johannbg (guest, #65743)
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Heck it even has it's employees annually sign a pledge not doing so [ยน] which contains among other things...
"Code of Business Conduct and Ethics"
Page 3
"Participation in an open source project, whether maintained by the Company or by another commercial or non-commercial entity or organization , does not constitute a conflict of interest even where such participant makes a determination in the interest of the project that is adverse to the Company's interests."
Which is nothing but a load of crap since their employees aren't following it ( classic case of great on paper crap on field ) so please don't condone or sugar code that corporate pile of crap that falls from that ivory tower there in phoenix and taste the pile of corporate shit for what it really is.
Posted Dec 10, 2014 18:22 UTC (Wed)
by peter-b (guest, #66996)
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Please moderate your scatological references.
I know you have a grievance, but you fill every LWN discussion even tangentially related to Red Hat with foaming-at-the-mouth rage-fueled flaming. It's got to the point now where most people who haven't killfiled you consider you to be a crazy person, which is a shame because when you're not posting about Red Hat you seem to have something useful to contribute. Your current approach isn't actually achieving anything other than to make yourself look bad. Could you possibly try and find an alternative way of persuading people to take your concerns seriously?
Posted Dec 10, 2014 23:24 UTC (Wed)
by johannbg (guest, #65743)
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Posted Dec 11, 2014 18:49 UTC (Thu)
by sjj (guest, #2020)
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Posted Dec 10, 2014 23:53 UTC (Wed)
by fandom (subscriber, #4028)
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That qoute doesn't really say anything, it is literally impossible not to follow it.
Posted Dec 11, 2014 1:29 UTC (Thu)
by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458)
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AFAICS, it explicitly allows certain activities (working on "outside" open source, deciding against Red Hat's wishes/interests in the course of work on open source that Red Hat happens to ship) that would get you fired almost automatically elsewhere. Interesting twist to exhibit this as an example of the Big Bad Red Hat Conspiracy...
Posted Dec 11, 2014 9:13 UTC (Thu)
by pbonzini (subscriber, #60935)
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I'm fairly sure a lot of people within Red Hat could be fired if it wasn't for this provision. (Not that they _would_ be fired, but they certainly could). Just as a stupid example, see Ubuntu Core advertised on the QEMU advent calendar (http://www.qemu-advent-calendar.org/#day-9).
It was a very nice surprise to read it when they hired me and I had to read and sign the code of conduct.
Posted Dec 9, 2014 22:07 UTC (Tue)
by hadrons123 (guest, #72126)
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Even if debian moves in glacial speed at least it works(Testing,stable etc installer images).
Posted Dec 9, 2014 22:13 UTC (Tue)
by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946)
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Nothing in particular. It is just a different audience with a different set of tradeoffs. If you prefer that, use it.
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> Company or by another commercial or non-commercial entity or organization
> , does not constitute a conflict of interest even where such participant
> makes a determination in the interest of the project that is adverse to
> the Company's interests."
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Debian installer is rock solid for the last 5 years I have used it.
Anaconda for all the QA attention it gets it is no way even near the debian installer. Alienating users/Developers is what makes people less inspired to work at any project.
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