This whole debate saddens me

Posted Dec 4, 2014 20:44 UTC (Thu) by viro (subscriber, #7872)
In reply to: This whole debate saddens me by mjg59
Parent article: The "Devuan" Debian fork

Do we, by any chance, have magical private perf patches that allow to obtain information about an apparent race leading to data corruption sometime reproducible by given test in xfstests, and whom should I ask for it? Just going by the last time I had to go into "bisect all the way to 3.0" mode...

</sarcasm> There's a whole lot of stuff other than performance regressions, as you damn well know. For those, yes, you want perf traces first and foremost (and even then you really might want to see where the hell has regression first happened - sometimes it helps in figuring out what's wrong with the current algorithm). And we do upstream work as well, as you also know - after all, crap happening in mainline eventually will end up as crap happening in the next RHEL branch. <sarcasm>

This whole debate saddens me

Posted Dec 4, 2014 21:02 UTC (Thu) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

Undeniably. But they're still not cases where customers are going to try to swap out individual components themselves - the risk is customers being unhappy because it takes Red Hat longer to diagnose an issue, not customers being unhappy that they can't run hybrid RHEL systems.