The "Devuan" Debian fork

Posted Nov 30, 2014 20:29 UTC (Sun) by dlang (guest, #313)
In reply to: The "Devuan" Debian fork by krake
Parent article: The "Devuan" Debian fork

perhaps because a systemd-lite that only did the init work doesn't achieve the goals of the systemd team of taking over all the linux plumbing layer??

after all, what's uselessd other than systemd-lite?

It's a bit more than just packaging in that it disables some things that systemd has declared unavoidable (such as the journal and cgroups), but it does seem to be the equivalent of the systemd-lite that you are asking for.

The "Devuan" Debian fork

Posted Dec 2, 2014 17:51 UTC (Tue) by krake (guest, #55996) [Link]

> perhaps because a systemd-lite that only did the init work doesn't achieve the goals of the systemd team of taking over all the linux plumbing layer??

I am afraid I don't understand how this fits into the context of my question/puzzlement.

Having a package that runs systemd as a service fits the goal of having systemd providing the plumbing and the goal of using something else as init.

The alternative mechanism would allow people to go for a system which uses systemd for init and plumbing and other people for using anything else for init.

If I understood amonnet's posting above correctly, that actually exists.

Which just makes the "tight coupling" claim even more weird.