Irrationality at it's best
Irrationality at it's best
Posted Oct 20, 2014 14:39 UTC (Mon) by josh (subscriber, #17465)In reply to: Irrationality at it's best by jrn
Parent article: The Debian init system general resolution returns
Posted Oct 20, 2014 14:52 UTC (Mon)
by johannbg (guest, #65743)
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Posted Oct 20, 2014 15:03 UTC (Mon)
by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
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There is a ton of insightful guest comments here, so banning them is counter-productive. However, banning all the systemd-related threads might make sense. The SNR has become way too low in these threads.
Posted Oct 20, 2014 15:10 UTC (Mon)
by johannbg (guest, #65743)
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Posted Oct 22, 2014 19:48 UTC (Wed)
by Kamilion (guest, #42576)
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I don't have much money, but I do keep my LWN subscription running to pick up some of the most meaningful insight into the linux world and it's players.
So far, I think Raven667 summed it up best with:
So far most of what I've heard has been grunts of indifference, a couple 'oh thank god I can finally kill that horrible initscript hack', and only one outright dismissal of systemd from a hardcore gentoo'er I know.
But hey, I helped out Gerard Beekmans and Jessie Tie-Ten-Quee with the getting the first copies of Linux from Scratch out the door -- I understand my system enough to know why things are. I understand others may not necessarily have that clarity, nor do I fault them for not wishing to develop it. Humans are by nature self-specializing, after all.
Posted Oct 23, 2014 21:13 UTC (Thu)
by cdmiller (guest, #2813)
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Around here a few consternations expressed by sysadmins are the implementation of the binary log (corruption handling, reinvention of the wheel), lack of log shipping (yay let's run 2 loggers now), and a perception of "crazy feature creep" (one current joke/betting pool is when windows-registryd will appear).
In the server realm a couple precepts are stability generally trumps features and "sudden or quick" forklift changes to services are to be avoided if possible. If or when systemd becomes a problem or too much of a pain point our sysadmins will eventually route around it is the sysadmin feedback I receive at present.
Posted Oct 23, 2014 22:19 UTC (Thu)
by johannbg (guest, #65743)
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1. https://www.debian.org/vote/2014/vote_003
Irrationality at it's best
Irrationality at it's best
Irrationality at it's best
Irrationality at it's best
"If things were as bad as the detractors say it would have been obvious for a long time and they wouldn't be talking about 'potential' problems, there would be a long line of angry pitchfork wielding sysadmins."
Irrationality at it's best
Irrationality at it's best