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Re: [RFC PATCH 0/11] Support Write-Through mapping on x86

From:  Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk-AT-oracle.com>
To:  "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-AT-zytor.com>
Subject:  Re: [RFC PATCH 0/11] Support Write-Through mapping on x86
Date:  Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:33:31 -0400
Message-ID:  <20140721183331.GB13420@laptop.dumpdata.com>
Cc:  Toshi Kani <toshi.kani-AT-hp.com>, tglx-AT-linutronix.de, mingo-AT-redhat.com, akpm-AT-linux-foundation.org, arnd-AT-arndb.de, plagnioj-AT-jcrosoft.com, tomi.valkeinen-AT-ti.com, linux-mm-AT-kvack.org, linux-kernel-AT-vger.kernel.org, stefan.bader-AT-canonical.com, luto-AT-amacapital.net, airlied-AT-gmail.com, bp-AT-alien8.de
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On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:32:34AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 07/21/2014 10:16 AM, Toshi Kani wrote:
> > 
> > You are right.  I was under a wrong impression that
> > __change_page_attr() always splits a large pages into 4KB pages, but I
> > overlooked the fact that it can handle a large page as well.  So, this
> > approach does not work...
> > 
> 
> If it did it would be a major fail.
> 
> >> I would also like a systematic way to deal with the fact
> >> that Xen (sigh) is stuck with a separate mapping system.
> >>
> >> I guess Linux could adopt the Xen mappings if that makes it easier, as
> >> long as that doesn't have a negative impact on native hardware -- we can
> >> possibly deal with some older chips not being optimal.  
> > 
> > I see.  I agree that supporting the PAT bit is the right direction, but
> > I do not know how much effort we need.  I will study on this.
> > 
> >> However, my thinking has been to have a "reverse PAT" table in memory of memory
> >> types to encodings, both for regular and large pages.
> > 
> > I am not clear about your idea of the "reverse PAT" table.  Would you
> > care to elaborate?  How is it different from using pte_val() being a
> > paravirt function on Xen?
> 
> First of all, paravirt functions are the root of all evil, and we want

Here I was thinking to actually put an entry in the MAINTAINERS
file for me to become the owner of it - as the folks listed there
are busy with other things.

The Maintainer of 'All Evil' has an interesting ring to it :-)

> to reduce and eliminate them to the utmost level possible.  But yes, we
> could plumb that up that way if we really need to.
> 
> What I'm thinking of is a table which can deal with both the moving PTE
> bit, Xen, and the scattered encodings by having a small table from types
> to encodings, and not use the encodings directly until fairly late it
> the pipe.  I suspect, but I'm not sure, that we would also need the
> inverse operation.

Mr Toshi-san,

This link:
http://xenbits.xen.org/gitweb/?p=xen.git;a=blob;f=xen/arc... might help you in figuring how this can be done.

Thought I have to say that the code is quite complex so it might
be more confusing then helpful.

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Re: [RFC PATCH 0/11] Support Write-Through mapping on x86

Posted Jul 31, 2014 8:36 UTC (Thu) by JMB (guest, #74439) [Link]

> The Maintainer of 'All Evil' has an interesting ring to it :-)
A good joke on it's own.
But with the mail domain "oracle.com" it's a perfect hit.
LOFLOL
I am sure many people will see images inside their heads like I see now.
That one will keep my fantasy busy for a while.
Thanks a lot for this real gem !!!


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