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RHEL 7 released

RHEL 7 released

Posted Jun 11, 2014 4:37 UTC (Wed) by drag (guest, #31333)
In reply to: RHEL 7 released by dowdle
Parent article: RHEL 7 released

I wouldn't put to much speculation in who knows what and who has been ordered to do anything.

This is the first time ever that Redhat had made a major release with CentOS as part of their organization. There is bound to be some confusion going on and people are being conservative in what they are going to talk about in public.

It will be interesting to see just how long before CentOS 7 comes out. Previous delays between CentOS and Redhat releases almost ended up being a deal breaker for the company I work at. We are not going to be willing to spend the money on Redhat licenses for every single system and having to support multiple versions of OSes is a significant burden while it was beginning to be increasingly difficult to run order versions of everything. Ubuntu LTS started coming up in discussions more and more. It would be easier in a lot of ways to simply switch to a different OS.

So hopefully better release coordination between CentOS and Redhat will be forthcoming.

If that happens and combined with the 'Software collections' it can be a huge win. This is interesting since it more closely resembles what we have to do to make sure that the application developers get the arbitrary dependencies they desire. Although I haven't even started looking at it closely it seems promising. I was leaning along the lines of abandoning rpms altogether for our in-house apps and just using something like Nix package management on top of Redhat since decoupling the package management system from the OS has turned out well for other things I've played around with. :/

At the very least people who have had problems with running the latest and greatest versions of PHP, python, or ruby should have a much easier time now on CentOS/Redhat.


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RHEL 7 released

Posted Jun 11, 2014 4:39 UTC (Wed) by drag (guest, #31333) [Link]

> run order versions of everything.

dur... meant older.

RHEL 7 released

Posted Jun 11, 2014 8:22 UTC (Wed) by ab (subscriber, #788) [Link] (1 responses)

What you describe makes perfect use case for docker. Given that RHEL 7's docker integration is big part of the release, I'm sure CentOS 7 will have that too. It is going to be along the lines of http://www.projectatomic.io/ and rpm-ostree.

RHEL 7 released

Posted Jun 11, 2014 15:02 UTC (Wed) by drag (guest, #31333) [Link]

Thanks. Docker is certainly interesting to us.

RHEL 7 released

Posted Jun 11, 2014 16:29 UTC (Wed) by ceplm (subscriber, #41334) [Link] (1 responses)

One thing we (I work for Red Hat) managed to do better this time is that there is actually alive EPEL-7 from the start (we have started to develop it with RHEL-7 Beta).

Concerning python. My machine says

matej@wycliff: ~$ rpm -q python
python-2.7.5-16.el7.x86_64
matej@wycliff: ~$

And yes, I believe that the main culprit for non-python-3 is anaconda and other essential Python programs on which whole distro stays. We don't have python3 anaconda AFAIK.

RHEL 7 released

Posted Jun 13, 2014 0:48 UTC (Fri) by misc (subscriber, #73730) [Link]

Because this also requires to port all the needed library, and make sure they all work fine. That's doable, but take a rather long time,since once you ported, you need to maintain the version 2 and the version 3 for a time. Which mean more ressources for testing, etc, etc.


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