Positions forming in the Debian init system discussion

Yep. That's why I talked about the mid-90ies (no, I wasn't trying to show off what an old fart I am ;-) and hand-waved about evolution path. I do know that when I first saw this SysV bunch-of-scripts I thought "oh, my! what happened to respawn?" (there were other thoughts about those brutal shell epics in HP/UX, but I disgress).

Anyway, this has taken us astray from the original intention of my post, and that was that beyond "technical excellence", which is, of itself not a well-defined thing anyway, there are other factors *for me* on which to judge whether I want to use/take part in some software. And systemd and its "environment" fail on those other accounts so much (I repeat: *for me*, probably not for you) that I refuse to even have a deeper look at it.