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Another patent battle for Android

Another patent battle for Android

Posted Nov 14, 2013 17:08 UTC (Thu) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435)
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Whenever I hear Rockstar, I think of the makers of GTA... I wonder if they can sue these trolls for sullying their good name?


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Another patent battle for Android

Posted Nov 15, 2013 8:52 UTC (Fri) by cas (guest, #52554) [Link] (5 responses)

what good name? Rockstar Games force you to sign up to their always-online "Social Club" crap, even to play single-player games like LA Noire and Max Payne 3. Only a few weeks ago, it was impossible to even play single-player MP3 because their servers were melting down under the load of GTA V registrations.

so, good name? not so much.

Another patent battle for Android

Posted Nov 15, 2013 11:11 UTC (Fri) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435) [Link] (2 responses)

A much better respected name than a patent troll, anyway!

Me, I've never been forced to sign up for their social club crap, but I always play their games on a console (I don't do Windows on my PCs)... I only just recently signed up for GTA5, solely to join a GTA online crew... Prior to doing so, I was able to play the single player game just fine without it... *shrug*

Another patent battle for Android

Posted Nov 15, 2013 13:25 UTC (Fri) by cas (guest, #52554) [Link] (1 responses)

The Max Payne 3 problem was real, I experienced it myself and you can see lots of other people bitching about it in several threads on Steam's web forum and other places. The problem was caused by rockstar's social club not coping with the load of GTAV registrations - denying access to all of their games that required Social Club registration and use, whether single player or multiplayer. Their Social Club platform is DRM spyware.

I'd bought MP3 several months earlier during a steam sale and had finally got around to playing it. at least, that was my intention but I found that I couldn't play the game for over a week because of the stupid rockstar social club - an anti-feature I didn't want, don't care about (i have absolutely *NO* interest in multiplayer games or anything related to them), but was unjustifiably denying me access to a game I had bought. As a test, I tried running LA Noire as well, a game I had played and completed quite a while ago - i wasn't able to play that either because of the social club.

so, *shrug* all you like but shrugs don't beat facts.

BTW, i built a win7 machine out of spare parts after upgrading my main system a few years ago because i was tired of some games i'd bought not working properly under wine (many worked perfectly, many did not, and many did not work at all - third party DRM being a source of many problems) - the first time i've ever had a windows machine of any kind, never had any need for one, and i've been using computers at home since 1977 (i went from trs80 to pcdos to msdos, spent about a year on os/2, and then linux since 1993). The Windows box started as an experiment but it worked well so I bought a good 1920x1200@60Hz DVI+USB KVM and now do all of my gaming on it. I wouldn't use windows for anything else - especially not online purchases (i buy games from my linux machine, download them later on the win7 box) but it makes an OK game console. and, funnily enough, far more "open" that a playstation or xbox or wii or any other console. If SteamOS turns out to be any good - and can run all or most of my steam games - then I may switch to that in future. if not, win7 works well enough for this purpose.

as for android stuff, i have an android phone (htc desire hd running cm7) and an android tablet (nexus 7) - but because of google's increasing evil, i'm eagerly awaiting a viable alternative (maybe firefox os or ubuntu phone...dunno yet, i'll wait and see). i don't need much - phone functionality and something equivalent to open street maps on my phone, and a decent ebook reader on my tablet.

Another patent battle for Android

Posted Nov 15, 2013 14:27 UTC (Fri) by RobSeace (subscriber, #4435) [Link]

Dude, calm down... I wasn't saying it wasn't the case on Windows; I know nothing about that situation, as I said... I'm sure gaming on Windows sucks balls, which is why I want nothing to do with it...

All I know is I've never had to register for their social club crap on consoles (PS2 or X360) for any of their games... I don't think it's even required for GTA Online, but just recommended for certain features...

So, I personally have never had any such bad experiences, nor had any reason to feel negatively toward Rockstar... I'm sure if I were a staunch Windows PC gamer, I'd hate them to death just for the fact that they never ported Red Dead Redemption, one of their best games of all time!

(But, I too hope for great things from SteamOS...)

Rockstar Games

Posted Nov 18, 2013 12:13 UTC (Mon) by Seegras (guest, #20463) [Link]

> Rockstar Games force you to sign up to their always-online "Social Club"
> crap, even to play single-player games like LA Noire and Max Payne 3.

Yup. Haven't gotten to run them on wine yet.

Although I've gotten some others that need a similar broken system to run:
https://github.com/Seegras/wine/tree/work/dlls/xlive

Another patent battle for Android

Posted Nov 21, 2013 12:07 UTC (Thu) by nye (subscriber, #51576) [Link]

>Rockstar Games force you to sign up to their always-online "Social Club" crap, even to play single-player games like LA Noire and Max Payne 3

For LA Noire at least, the Social Club thing is optional. I played through most of the game (on Windows) before signing up just to find out what 'features' it added. (Answer: you can get hints based on what the majority of other players picked as responses. That's it.)

It does however use different profiles for Social Club vs offline games, so if you get suckered into signing up from the word go, you can only access that game in progress while online, which is probably the problem you found (I don't think it makes this clear at all).


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