Seigo: on introducing new ideas to free software communities

Posted Nov 6, 2013 14:49 UTC (Wed) by Del- (guest, #72641)
In reply to: Seigo: on introducing new ideas to free software communities by dgm
Parent article: Seigo: on introducing new ideas to free software communities

> Yes, kdelibs5-data reached 40,000 once... for a month. Then returned to about 30,000 where it stays since.

There is something strange with these numbers. Where did all the users go? They did not go to XFCE, Gnome or LXDE. Seems like they went headless mode. This basically suggests that popcon numbers are not suited for tracking desktop users. I am one of the Debian KDE users that do not submit data to popcon.

Seigo: on introducing new ideas to free software communities

Posted Nov 6, 2013 17:38 UTC (Wed) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

>They did not go to XFCE, Gnome or LXDE.
At least I did a couple of years ago.

Seigo: on introducing new ideas to free software communities

Posted Nov 6, 2013 19:10 UTC (Wed) by alejandronova (guest, #93813) [Link] (1 responses)

I know where those users did go: they escaped from Debian, and I am one of them. Debian used to have a pretty good KDE packaging team back in the KDE 3.5.x days, but today, Sid stays at 4.8, and the only way to install KDE 4.11 is resorting to experimental. You can live safely with Sid, but experimental is a totally diferent matter, and, since you have to mix repositories and remember lots of package exclusions and repository pinnings, a proper KDE install in Debian is painful beyond anything acceptable. So, I settled on Fedora, and haven't touched Debian since the KDE 3.5.x days.

Seigo: on introducing new ideas to free software communities

Posted Nov 7, 2013 8:10 UTC (Thu) by Del- (guest, #72641) [Link]

> I know where those users did go: they escaped from Debian

That makes sense. I am one of those who spent years on Kubuntu. On my way back home now though.

> Sid stays at 4.8

Not anymore, both Sid and testing have been at 4.10.5 for some weeks now. Only grievance I have is that some idiots convinced Debian that KDE was bloated, so I had a non-functional desktop after first install due to lax dependencies. Installing the kde-full package solved everything.