Shumway lands in Firefox

Posted Oct 8, 2013 20:05 UTC (Tue) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402)
Parent article: Shumway lands in Firefox

Impressive, but I do wish they would try and get SVG right before they go off on these windmill projects.

Shumway lands in Firefox

Posted Oct 9, 2013 11:38 UTC (Wed) by njwhite (guest, #51848) [Link] (4 responses)

Oh, I was under the impression that SVG support was quite good. I've only knowingly used it in iceweasel for viewing images from wikimedia, but I was considering using them in the future for some websites (now that I have a 230PPI screen I love vectors, you see ;)). Can you point me to information on what's wrong with it? Is it just advanced animation sort of stuff?

Shumway lands in Firefox

Posted Oct 10, 2013 6:48 UTC (Thu) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link] (2 responses)

Given that basic stuff like SVG resizing is still not complete ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=163068 ), when scaling is the whole point of a vector format, I'm pretty sure SVG support is far from done Firefox-side. Probably suffers from the usual "it's cool but the competition does not do it so let's try to catch up on proprietary stuff like flash instead of pushing open functionality (but do a minimal implementation to claim we have the feature anyway)".

Usual chicken-and-eggs "no one uses it because it's not complete, no need to complete it because no one uses it".

Shumway lands in Firefox

Posted Oct 10, 2013 9:17 UTC (Thu) by kleptog (subscriber, #1183) [Link] (1 responses)

Well, to be fair this bug is about a user interface issue, rather than the SVG implementation. All the underlying support is there (the currentScale and currentTranslate DOM attributes) so a small layer of javascript is needed for the controls. There are also extensions that do it.

It's not clear to me that adding a default UI is sensible now since it will just get in the way of sites that want their own UI. For standalone SVG files it may be useful though.

Shumway lands in Firefox

Posted Oct 10, 2013 15:22 UTC (Thu) by nim-nim (subscriber, #34454) [Link]

SVG scaling in the browser has only been implemented correctly in Firefox 24
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=600207

SVG support is not mature at all, basic blocks are still being done (more the pity)

Shumway lands in Firefox

Posted Oct 16, 2013 23:01 UTC (Wed) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402) [Link]

Sorry for not replying sooner.

My favourite lacking area in mozilla's SVG is not actually supporting any blend mode other than "normal" in any usable way: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=437554