Ten years of Fedora

Posted Sep 23, 2013 19:11 UTC (Mon) by hummassa (subscriber, #307)
In reply to: Ten years of Fedora by Neowin
Parent article: Ten years of Fedora

> Nowadays, Windows implies Windows NT, thank you.

We still have some 300+ Windows98/only hardware and 1000+ Office97 licenses. You have to work with what you have.

> And note that Windows 7 provides an XP Mode VM.

Have you ever tried it? We did. It's not pretty, nor is it usable by our regular users.

> Does your fancy Linux distro provide such "plan B"?

Yeah, you install libc5:i386 and you can run a xv binary compiled c. 1995.

> Can you name the APIs?

As I mentioned, it was 5 years ago or so, but I am searching my emails... If I find it, I will post it here.

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Sep 24, 2013 3:26 UTC (Tue) by Neowin (guest, #93001) [Link] (2 responses)

> We still have some 300+ Windows98/only hardware and 1000+ Office97 licenses. You have to work with what you have.

Don't you know http://www.openoffice.org/
Also http://kernelex.sourceforge.net/

> Have you ever tried it? We did. It's not pretty, nor is it usable by our regular users.

It is perfectly usable for me.
After downloading Firefox from its built-in IE6, it works like a charm.

> Yeah, you install libc5:i386 and you can run a xv binary compiled c. 1995.

Show something else? For example an valuable software like Office97.

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Sep 24, 2013 7:51 UTC (Tue) by ovitters (guest, #27950) [Link]

I use Microsoft Office at work. Normal upgrades regularly break things. Resulting in requiring a reinstall of Microsoft Office until eventually it breaks again. I am not talking about my pc, it is multiple pcs in various locations. This on Windows XP.

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Sep 24, 2013 10:05 UTC (Tue) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link]

> It is perfectly usable for me.

Congrats! You are probably a smart user. I have 100+ users (in an universe of almost 4000) that had to use the thing and none of them could touch it.

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Sep 24, 2013 15:57 UTC (Tue) by dashesy (guest, #74652) [Link]

As I mentioned, it was 5 years ago or so, but I am searching my emails... If I find it, I will post it here.

Search again, for keywords like dll hell, missing MSVCRT80, side by side, ActiveX OLE COM.

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Oct 3, 2013 18:14 UTC (Thu) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458) [Link] (3 responses)

I had a Microsoft game certified for their Win98 interfaces never get past the splash screen on WinNT. That one was certified to provide said interfaces.

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Oct 3, 2013 18:52 UTC (Thu) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link] (1 responses)

Game? Try Microsoft OFFICE 97. Does not work in Windows7/64 bits. Oh, you can run it inside that virtual machine thingy, but it is so complex that NO end-users here at the shop (amongst a sample of a hundred or so) could bother to learn it.

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Oct 3, 2013 21:58 UTC (Thu) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

Even Microsoft has limits. Yes, it supports stuff for much longer than Linux vendors do, but 16 years old package (Ok, 12 years old at the time Windows 7 was released) is too old even for Microsoft. Microsoft clearly indicated that you should have upgraded over ten years ago, after all, it's not as if you had no advance notifications about the need to do that.

Ten years of Fedora

Posted Oct 3, 2013 22:01 UTC (Thu) by khim (subscriber, #9252) [Link]

WinNT was never sold as an upgrade to Windows 9X. Not even Windows 2000. Only Windows XP did. And if you'll consider the fact that it had completely revamped internal architecture and everything then it's surprising to see how few hiccups were there with Windows98 to WindowsXP upgrade.