The OpenZFS project launches [LWN.net]

The OpenZFS project launches

Posted Sep 17, 2013 17:06 UTC (Tue) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link] (1 responses)

Linux kernel? No. a community of fork cannot unilaterally change the license of a weak copyleft licensed codebase.

The OpenZFS project launches

Posted Sep 25, 2013 14:46 UTC (Wed) by ssam (guest, #46587) [Link]

But someone could re-implement ZFS and licence the code however they wanted. Then it would only be patent fears holding back its inclusion. (There would not be much at all in the linux kernel if every patent fear was upheld).

The OpenZFS project launches

Posted Sep 17, 2013 21:05 UTC (Tue) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link]

I'd rather see another situation. If ZFS on FUSE becomes popular, major distros would provide an option to install on ZFS, which eventually could become the default. If FUSE is widely used, many other filesystems and filesystem encryption could be ported to the userspace. That would make Linux one step closer to a microkernel.

The OpenZFS project launches

Posted Sep 18, 2013 0:16 UTC (Wed) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link] (4 responses)

This project is probably irrelevant for Linux, since there's no way to get ZFS accepted into the mainline kernel. The main benefactors of this project are *BSDs and various OpenSolaris forks.

Anyway, btrfs is clearly a replacement for ZFS on Linux. It doesn't have all the ZFS features right now, but it'll probably get them in the near future.

The OpenZFS project launches

Posted Sep 18, 2013 11:36 UTC (Wed) by nye (subscriber, #51576) [Link] (3 responses)

>This project is probably irrelevant for Linux, since there's no way to get ZFS accepted into the mainline kernel. The main benefactors of this project are *BSDs and various OpenSolaris forks.

On the contrary, this is likely to be particularly beneficial to Linux, as it represents ZFS as a standalone project, rather than a part of illumos. One of their goals is a greater separation of platform-specific parts, and an emphasis on improved portability and co-operation between the different ports of ZFS, which should reduce the work required to keep zfsonlinux up to date with upstream. (See http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Reduce_code_differences and http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Platform_code_differences)

>Anyway, btrfs is clearly a replacement for ZFS on Linux. It doesn't have all the ZFS features right now, but it'll probably get them in the near future.

We've been hearing that for five years now. Currently it's nowhere near feature-complete, progress is slow, and people are regularly losing data. I have a reasonably high degree of confidence that there will *never* be a day that it catches up to ZFS.

The OpenZFS project launches

Posted Sep 18, 2013 13:07 UTC (Wed) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link] (2 responses)

> We've been hearing that for five years now. Currently it's nowhere near feature-complete, progress is slow, and people are regularly losing data. I have a reasonably high degree of confidence that there will *never* be a day that it catches up to ZFS.

Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. It's been "almost ready now" for longer than I can remember. Meanwhile, my first attempt at a btrfs filesystem (on a small, light use SSD in a media center type of system), managed to corrupt itself beyond repair under normal operating conditions.

(The system had never had an unclean shutdown either, so it's not like I can blame a power outage)

The OpenZFS project launches

Posted Sep 23, 2013 12:01 UTC (Mon) by jospoortvliet (guest, #33164) [Link] (1 responses)

In an effort to push btrfs forward, the openSUSE 13.1 beta testing work will focus on btrfs. The SUSE btrfs team is discussing the disabling of unsafe features - with those disabled btrfs should be perfectly safe.

The OpenZFS project launches

Posted Sep 23, 2013 12:02 UTC (Mon) by jospoortvliet (guest, #33164) [Link]

Link: http://news.opensuse.org/2013/09/19/opensuse-13-1-beta-is...