Intel and XMir

Posted Sep 12, 2013 21:50 UTC (Thu) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523)
In reply to: Intel and XMir by maxiaojun
Parent article: Intel and XMir

> Having more features doesn't mean superior.
It is, if those features make common tasks less complicated.

> Moreover, I once noticed that yum/zypper is probably superior to APT. Should we give up APT and switch, then?
It's definitely not completely superior. And once something better comes and the switch is not too complicated, then yes we should switch.

> Probably true. But given the obvious hostility showed by Intel this time, I find that political concerns, if any, are justified.
Intel's hostility is mostly reaction to Ubuntu's.

Intel and XMir

Posted Sep 12, 2013 22:04 UTC (Thu) by maxiaojun (guest, #91482) [Link] (5 responses)

> It is, if those features make common tasks less complicated.

So, how do you measure complexity?

> Intel's hostility is mostly reaction to Ubuntu's.

If not picking some free software is hostility, then free software is a misnomer of fascist software.

Intel and XMir

Posted Sep 12, 2013 22:52 UTC (Thu) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link] (4 responses)

>So, how do you measure complexity?
Lines of code to implement certain functionality and chances to make a mistake.

> If not picking some free software is hostility, then free software is a misnomer of fascist software.
Creating a technically pointless local fork is hostility and one of the major reasons for fragmentation.

Intel and XMir

Posted Sep 12, 2013 23:20 UTC (Thu) by maxiaojun (guest, #91482) [Link] (3 responses)

> Lines of code to implement certain functionality and chances to make a mistake.

Oh, then it is even better to use Windows Server, where it generally requires 0 line of code to do things have 0 chance of making a mistake.

> Creating a technically pointless local fork is hostility and one of the major reasons for fragmentation.

I find that it is quite meaningful, after encountering so many hostile, fascist people like you.

Intel and XMir

Posted Sep 12, 2013 23:23 UTC (Thu) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link] (2 responses)

For servers? Nope, Windows Server requires quite a bit of configuration (just look at service installation). So my comparison holds.

SystemD _is_ easier to use than Upstart, especially with its JournalD integration.

Intel and XMir

Posted Sep 12, 2013 23:33 UTC (Thu) by maxiaojun (guest, #91482) [Link] (1 responses)

> For servers? Nope, Windows Server requires quite a bit of configuration (just look at service installation). So my comparison holds.

Yes, you are always 100% correct.

> SystemD _is_ easier to use than Upstart, especially with its JournalD integration.

A straight search of "JournalD" gives me this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=168524
Something works for you doesn't necessarily works for other people (especially true in Linux eco-system as software configurations are way too many)

Intel and XMir

Posted Sep 12, 2013 23:41 UTC (Thu) by pizza (subscriber, #46) [Link]

> A straight search of "JournalD" gives me this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=168524
Something works for you doesn't necessarily works for other people (especially true in Linux eco-system as software configurations are way too many)

You do realize that that link actually contradicts your assertion? The actual problem is another piece of software (ie nepomuk) either had corrupted data files or said files weren't compatible from one version to the next, and was continually (and rapidly) crashing and restarting itself. Journald, being the system logger, did its job and logged each and every occurance.