Ubuntu Edge: founder says failure isn't the end of the dream (Guardian)

Posted Aug 22, 2013 22:41 UTC (Thu) by jspaleta (subscriber, #50639)
Parent article: Ubuntu Edge: founder says failure isn't the end of the dream (Guardian)

I'm sort of confused.

Silber is quoted in cnet saying:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57599754-94/canonical-ce...
"I think the full Ubuntu convergence experience will not be in the first round of Ubuntu phones, which we're targeting for the first quarter 2014,"

But Shuttleworth is quoted in this article as saying:
"We have 12 carriers who say they want Ubuntu."
"they haven't said that they will ship Ubuntu phones, no."

How do you seriously make an estimate that Uphones are going to be available in early 2014 when none of the carriers have committed to shipping a Uphone yet?

I know the CAG is new and all...but it really seems to me that Canonical's exec team are putting words in the mouth of CAG members. I've yet to see anybody for the CAG make a statement on the record about intent or desire to field a Uphone on their network. Everything being generated concerning OEM and carrier interest is coming directly out of Canonical bull horns..either on the record or via leaked information to laypress.

Somebody in the CAG needs to step up and put their desire to ship Uphone retail in 2014 on the record in their own words for this effort to really be taken seriously. If Canonical is going to continue to intimate that phones are coming in 2014 a partner...any partner...needs to be able to stand up and corroborate that.

Ubuntu Edge: founder says failure isn't the end of the dream (Guardian)

Posted Aug 23, 2013 12:34 UTC (Fri) by sebas (guest, #51660) [Link]

Looking at most of the communication around the Ubuntu Phone, it's all unspecific. A lot of "somebody has shown interest", "we feel it is the right solution" and so on. To me, this really feels like (ha!) being presented a smoke screen without no dependable information in it. But what you're gonna do with those ambitions, and none of these world-changing ideas actually being there in reality, i.e. in working code. Same story goes for Mir, Ubuntu TV, Ubuntu on Android, and all the other failed projects you hear nothing about anymore. They're really doing a disservice to their (fainting) credibility with that.

I've unconsciously prefixed most of the communication coming out of Canonical with "In our wildest dreams ...".