Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 29, 2013 21:02 UTC (Sat) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389)
In reply to: Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir by maxiaojun
Parent article: Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

> You said you've just decided for 13.10? What a plain lie.

He didn't say that they didn't decide for 14.04, just that the decision to not use Mir in 13.04 has been made and isn't going to change. I certainly wouldn't want my users to be subjected to the first attempt at Mir/XMir for an LTS. Are you trying to be adversarial at this point?

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 30, 2013 2:43 UTC (Sun) by maxiaojun (guest, #91482) [Link] (4 responses)

Again, read the main article, emphasize mine: We'll be staying with X on the images for our 13.10 release now in development and the 14.04LTS release next year."

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 30, 2013 3:19 UTC (Sun) by rahulsundaram (subscriber, #21946) [Link] (1 responses)

It isn't just Kubuntu. None of community spins seem ready to ship Mir without upstream support and unless there is a compelling advantage, I don't expect they will anytime soon.

http://lubuntublog.blogspot.com/2013/06/lubuntu-willl-not...

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 30, 2013 5:12 UTC (Sun) by maxiaojun (guest, #91482) [Link]

I don't expect Xfce and LXDE switch to Wayland any time soon either, probably never, unless one day they are forced to use XWayland or XMir. I guess you probably know Xfce better than me.

But anyway, LXDE/Lubuntu people is much less annoying than their KDE/Kubuntu counter part.

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 30, 2013 3:32 UTC (Sun) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link] (1 responses)

Did you even read my comment or just pick keywords out to get your own meaning from it? How did what he said contradict that? He *did not say that 14.04 wasn't decided*, only that 13.10 has been. In any case, I can't fault them for going with not doing an initial release for a new, untested, display server in an LTS release.

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 30, 2013 5:02 UTC (Sun) by maxiaojun (guest, #91482) [Link]

My bad, I didn't notice that you said "didn't" twice.

But again, he said "The future is unpredictable and we'll do what makes sense when we get there." to prove my "No, I've never seen Kubuntu devs showed any interest following Ubuntu as upstream. They just repeat Mir FUD all the times and never show people anything concrete." in the context of Mir issue wrong?

As for not good switching display server for an LTS, this is the reason why one should start from 13.10, if the team concerned has non-zero interest.