Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 28, 2013 16:31 UTC (Fri) by maxiaojun (guest, #91482)
In reply to: Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir by mgraesslin
Parent article: Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

No. Adding layer isn't necessarily a bad thing. XMir may end up works better than vanilla Xorg. (I'm aware of the fact XMir currently have a performance hit)

For KDE freeze thing, I think it should be an XMir bug if it has trouble running vanilla KDE stack. Bugs can be found by extensive testing rather than extensive whining.

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 28, 2013 16:41 UTC (Fri) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link] (6 responses)

In what ways do you think XMir might end up working better than Xorg?

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 28, 2013 16:52 UTC (Fri) by maxiaojun (guest, #91482) [Link] (5 responses)

In ways that Mac OS X and Windows are better than current Xorg-based Linux desktop.

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 28, 2013 16:59 UTC (Fri) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link] (4 responses)

Have you tried running a full X desktop on top of OS X or Windows? Doing so doesn't inherit any of the benefits you gain from using the native graphical environment. So, how would using XMir give you advantages over using plain Xorg?

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 28, 2013 17:06 UTC (Fri) by maxiaojun (guest, #91482) [Link] (3 responses)

If the native stack is high quality, you still benefit from it.

I remember the days when screen resolution change requires tricky configuration of X and I had no luck with my big LCD monitor.

Today, "xrandr" command is still necessary in some cases.

Installing binary drivers to X based system is also a mess. (I know that the GPU vendors should take some blame. )

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 28, 2013 17:11 UTC (Fri) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link] (2 responses)

How do you benefit? If you're speaking to XMir rather than to Mir, the only interfaces you have available are the ones present in Xorg. Can you provide a list of the benefits you expect to see, along with an explanation of why they're present under XMir but not under Xorg?

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 28, 2013 17:29 UTC (Fri) by maxiaojun (guest, #91482) [Link] (1 responses)

Do you think XWayland might have advantages over vanilla Xorg? If not, well, OK, you win, bye.

Riddell: Kubuntu Won't be Switching to Mir or XMir

Posted Jun 28, 2013 17:36 UTC (Fri) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link]

I think XWayland would provide exactly the same benefits (or lack thereof) as XMir. You're the one who said they were there.