Red Hat discloses RHEL roadmap (TechTarget)

Posted Jun 14, 2013 12:27 UTC (Fri) by ovitters (guest, #27950)
In reply to: Red Hat discloses RHEL roadmap (TechTarget) by nim-nim
Parent article: Red Hat discloses RHEL roadmap (TechTarget)

I've asked various times to show proof of your assertion that Red Hat has "veto power" in the GNOME project. You show all kinds of things, but nothing which backs up your claim.

To be clear: The entity having veto power is GNOME board and GNOME release team. I am a member of the release team. I am pretty aware of the rules and how things are done.

I have never seen anything about "veto power". I've asked you to back this up various times, you haven't shown anything.

The only point you could make is that they've hired maintainers, as I said before. However, that is not "veto power".

So please back up your claims.

Red Hat discloses RHEL roadmap (TechTarget)

Posted Jun 15, 2013 14:23 UTC (Sat) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link] (2 responses)

Red Hat can veto by laying down the law and choosing not to use your version of Gnome in RHEL. Red Hat made it clear to you that Gnome3 shell was unacceptable, and you jumped. The recent course of events is, itself, proof of nim-nim's assertion. Red Hat is a billion dollar company, and not a hobby project. When they invest in a project like Gnome, they reasonably insist upon effective control. This does not necessarily mean that the control will be explicitly written into the bylaws. In fact, it's often best that the veto power *not* make it into the bylaws. But the power is, effectively, there. And that is no accident.

Red Hat discloses RHEL roadmap (TechTarget)

Posted Jun 16, 2013 22:41 UTC (Sun) by dag- (guest, #30207) [Link] (1 responses)

So you are basically saying that Red Hat has veto powers over what they put into RHEL. And that affects also how they customize the Gnome that goes into RHEL.

Makes sense, since that's what they have to support for the next 13 years (starting from GA).

But that doesn't mean Red Hat has veto powers over Gnome (either the project, or the source code). They may have influence, but influence is still not veto power...

Red Hat discloses RHEL roadmap (TechTarget)

Posted Jun 16, 2013 22:53 UTC (Sun) by sbergman27 (guest, #10767) [Link]

10 years ago, I might have agreed that what the Gnome guys decided was more important than what was decided for them by higher ups.