The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland (Phoronix)

Posted Jun 10, 2013 9:16 UTC (Mon) by blackwood (guest, #44174)
In reply to: The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland (Phoronix) by jzbiciak
Parent article: The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland (Phoronix)

Yeah, that's it. Wayland networking will combine the sound network protocol ideas of VNC (having a local server for the remote client and a local window on the local display server and forwarding bitmaps/input events asynchronously) with the nice integration of forwarding an X client. The end result is pretty impressive.

What's holding things up is simply that other stuff is currently a higher priority (like plugging the holes in the input layer for input methods and fleshing out the window display mode a bit). But I guess it'll all be in place when desktops environments have working Wayland code, together with XWayland and all the other pieces we need to have for a well-working full-fledged Wayland desktop.

The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland (Phoronix)

Posted Jun 18, 2013 11:20 UTC (Tue) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (1 responses)

The end result is pretty impressive.

Except if you want to scroll windows full of text, since that means repainting the entire screen rather than erasing a line from the top, shuffling the rest up, and painting a line at the bottom (or vice versa), since it has no understanding of the semantics of scrolling.

I am told that in order to get such a rare and obscure use case to work I have to wait for toolkit-level remoting, which is as far as I can tell a complete mirage: nobody is working on it, nobody is planning to work on it, if people do work on it their work for distinct toolkits will be totally uncoordinated (natch), why aren't you happy with VNC-style bitmap shuffling nobody needs to scroll windows full of text anyway.

The Wayland Situation: Facts About X vs. Wayland (Phoronix)

Posted Jun 19, 2013 0:14 UTC (Wed) by daniels (subscriber, #16193) [Link]

> Except if you want to scroll windows full of text, since that means repainting the entire screen rather than erasing a line from the top, shuffling the rest up, and painting a line at the bottom (or vice versa), since it has no understanding of the semantics of scrolling.

Again, this is completely false.