LCA: The ways of Wayland

Posted Feb 15, 2013 22:34 UTC (Fri) by raven667 (subscriber, #5198)
In reply to: LCA: The ways of Wayland by Serge
Parent article: LCA: The ways of Wayland

> And finally after all those years Wayland will turn into what X11 is now

I doubt that, the developers of the Wayland protocol and Weston and other window managers have a much better idea of what the state of the art of graphics looks like and are likely to be in the future vs. the original X11 developers in the 1980s. I don't expect things to ever be as complicated or fundamentally broken as the X11 protocol, we just know more about designing this kind of thing now.

> Wayland is not going to be as stable as X.Org

I call BS. It's using the same underlying graphics infrastructure as X11 is using but with less broken behavior in the middle so it should be much more stable, with less surprises, than Xorg can be. It's not going to be worse, it can only get better.

> The main question is: why spending 10 years for making Wayland as good as X11, if we already have X11 today?

You think X11 is good, which puts you at odds with the people who work directly with X11. We don't just "have" X11 today, what we have is an on-going, heroic effort to keep it working and support modern devices, which is failing.

> PS: I really wish I was wrong and there's another bright wayland future

No argument there 8-)

LCA: The ways of Wayland

Posted Feb 21, 2013 4:40 UTC (Thu) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] (3 responses)

> PS: I really wish I was wrong and there's another bright wayland future

No argument there 8-)
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Tech unaware but savvy user talking (lol)

Does it make any app look better ? NO (depends on lot of things)

Does it makes any app with more features ? NO

it doesn't matter a bit at all then...

And that is the truth, give 10 users with 10 computers with very identical "themes" with identical "apps", and they will not say a word if it Wayland or X or care AT ALL...

Wayland is better, it may be but depends a lot on how much and how X could evolve... in the end it could be almost a perfect match...

But if it is already settled, if Wayland is to go full force, then i advocate the end of Xorg, CLOSE THE DOORS... who is paying their bills BTW ? ... Collabora ?... what the hell for ?... to keep an illusion for donkeys consumption ?... and who is paying Collabora and why BTW !?

**(THIS ARE THE QUESTIONS)**

LCA: The ways of Wayland

Posted Feb 21, 2013 6:46 UTC (Thu) by viro (subscriber, #7872) [Link] (2 responses)

[snip a load of incoherent noise]
> **(THIS ARE THE QUESTIONS)**

Never would've guessed by the question marks alone - not without all-caps from a pretentious wankstain. Good thing that you've clarified that...

LCA: The ways of Wayland

Posted Feb 21, 2013 23:46 UTC (Thu) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link] (1 responses)

Sorry if the aesthetics bother you so much... or is the truth that hurts ?

Nevertheless, no matter who *pretends* to have known or guessed, i never saw those questions posed... who is it really? ... why is it really? ... who **benefits** the most, or what is the real agenda ?

The LCA X thread provides also a lot of clarifications.

LCA: The ways of Wayland

Posted Feb 22, 2013 0:08 UTC (Fri) by hummassa (subscriber, #307) [Link]

Lay down the pipe, son.