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Re: Formal submission of Xtables2

From:  Jozsef Kadlecsik <kadlec-AT-blackhole.kfki.hu>
To:  Jan Engelhardt <jengelh-AT-inai.de>
Subject:  Re: Formal submission of Xtables2
Date:  Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:49:26 +0100 (CET)
Message-ID:  <alpine.DEB.2.00.1212172356530.16469@blackhole.kfki.hu>
Cc:  Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo-AT-netfilter.org>, Netfilter Developer Mailing List <netfilter-devel-AT-vger.kernel.org>, Netfilter user mailing list <netfilter-AT-vger.kernel.org>, =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Maciej_=AFenczykowski?= <zenczykowski-AT-gmail.com>
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On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

> On Monday 2012-12-17 15:30, Pablo Neira Ayuso wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 02:01:07PM +0100, Jan Engelhardt wrote:
> >[...]
> >> >So far, I haven't see any *strong reason* to drop nftables code
> >> 
> >> In all fairness, I have never said anything about dropping nft.
> >> I am focused on xt2, its inclusion and subsequent maintenance, because 
> >> it resolves the ipt shortcomings in a way that I think appeals most to 
> >> the userspace crowd.
> >
> >I'm still not convinced but I want find a short-term compromise
> >solution for this which does not involve tons of email. We'll announce
> >the netfilter workshop soon, likely to happen at Q1 2013 depending on
> >availability of the organizer, but maybe Q2 2013 (but not later), I
> >think it's the place to debate your proposal and nftables, of course.
> >
> >I will not get anything into mainline until then.
> 
> Delaying this for more months is not a good idea, I think.
> 
> The amount of patches will grow as more features are implemented. If
> there is an objection to a patch, then this can have implications for
> all those that follow (not rebase conflicts, but actual
> invalidating), which gets more painful the larger the patchset is.

A few months won't really hurt - TPROXY had been discussed for a couple of 
years at every workshop (and it was much simpler, smaller code). Both 
nftables and xtables2 have got nice features, so it's not a simple 
question.

Best regards,
Jozsef
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