Systemd 197 released

Posted Jan 9, 2013 5:10 UTC (Wed) by nteon (subscriber, #53899)
In reply to: Systemd 197 released by mgb
Parent article: Systemd 197 released

you're a decent troll, but I suggest being more subtle. In time you might be able to pass yourself off better.

Systemd 197 released

Posted Jan 9, 2013 6:00 UTC (Wed) by mgb (guest, #3226) [Link] (4 responses)

Do you have anything to say that's on point and not ad hominem?

Linux and the Gnu tools combine to create an extremely flexible platform that is optimal for almost all use cases.

Poettering seems determined to create a monolithic monstrosity more akin to Microsoft than Gnu and Linux.

Not only is this technically abhorrent in and of itself, but the process whereby he takes control of a key feature and then leverages it to force other unnecessary changes is morally abhorrent, and incidentally also in the Microsoft vein.

Systemd 197 released

Posted Jan 9, 2013 6:35 UTC (Wed) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link] (2 responses)

Very unsubtle trolling.

> Linux and the Gnu tools combine to create an extremely flexible platform that is optimal for almost all use cases.
Android and uClibc/Busybox systems are very monolithic non-GNU-ish systems. And they FAR outnumber 'traditional' desktop/server Linux (and other Unixes, for that matter).

Systemd 197 released

Posted Jan 9, 2013 11:01 UTC (Wed) by mgb (guest, #3226) [Link] (1 responses)

It's great that non-monolithic Gnu and Linux make it so easy to replace components.

Systemd 197 released

Posted Jan 9, 2013 12:43 UTC (Wed) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

> It's great that non-monolithic Gnu and Linux make it so easy to replace components.
It's great iff there is a substantial benefit to be gained by doing so. If there isn't, the ability to replace components only makes things more complex and harder to integrate and test. Poettering understands that, and most 'Unix philosophy' whiners either don't or have very strange ideas about what a substantial benefit is.

Systemd 197 released

Posted Jan 9, 2013 6:51 UTC (Wed) by HelloWorld (guest, #56129) [Link]

systemd is not monolithic. Many of its features run in processes other than PID 1 and most of its advanced functionality can be disabled with compile-time configuration options and/or at run-time.

And besides, I don't even care whether it's monolithic or unix-ish or whatever other labels you'll come up with. What I care about is that it is faster, more reliable and more powerful than any of its alternatives. And unlike you, Poettering posted long and detailed rationale for the systemd design in his blog, while you completely fail to give any technical arguments against it. That makes it a lot easier to agree with him than with you.