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Posted Nov 9, 2012 1:35 UTC (Fri) by marcH (subscriber, #57642)
In reply to: Fast boot by Eckhart
Parent article: LCE: Systemd two years on

> You are implying that the classic base system is so badly written that it needs frequent edits

He is not. On the other hand, you seem to be implying software can be perfect and never require minor bug fixes, workarounds or adaptations.

> ... in a maintainable programming language?

While Bourne shell scripting shows its age and has a number of significant problems, as a higher level language it also has a number of desirable properties that C has not. Not requiring compilation is only one of them.

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Posted Nov 9, 2012 2:50 UTC (Fri) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link] (5 responses)

Requiring C compilation for each change is a strawman.

You need to change SystemD code only for very major new features. Small changes can be done just fine by using wrappers over executable files and/or script hooks (basic systemd functionality).

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Posted Nov 9, 2012 11:57 UTC (Fri) by gb (subscriber, #58328) [Link] (4 responses)

Wrappers and hooks. Hope that Debian will never integrate this.

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Posted Nov 9, 2012 12:11 UTC (Fri) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link] (1 responses)

systemd is available in wheezy, as are upstart, sysvinit, and runit.

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Posted Nov 9, 2012 12:12 UTC (Fri) by gb (subscriber, #58328) [Link]

I meant never switch completely to it without possibility to choose something else.

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Posted Nov 9, 2012 13:30 UTC (Fri) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link]

Too late. Systemd is already available in Debian for those who want to install it.

The jury is still out on whether it will eventually become the default init system for Debian (at least on Linux). There are reasonable arguments both in favour and against.

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Posted Nov 9, 2012 18:10 UTC (Fri) by Cyberax (✭ supporter ✭, #52523) [Link]

What's wrong with them?

Oh, and start-stop-daemon (present in almost every Debian initscript) is very much a wrapper already. And an ugly one at that.