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"Never again." It is as simplistic as it is absurd. It is as vague as it is damaging. No two words have provided so little meaning or context; no catchphrase has so warped policy discussions that it has permanently confused the public's understanding of homeland security. It convinced us that invulnerability was a possibility.

The notion that policies should focus almost exclusively on preventing the next attack has also masked an ideological battle within homeland-security policy circles between "never again" and its antithesis, commonly referred to as "shit happens" but in polite company known as "resiliency." The debate isn't often discussed this way, and not simply because of the bad language. Time has not only eased the pain of that day, but there have also been no significant attacks. "Never again" has so infiltrated public discourse that to even acknowledge a trend away from prevention is considered risky, un-American. Americans don't do "Keep Calm and Carry On." But if they really want security, the kind of security that is sustainable and realistic, then they are going to have to.

-- Juliette Kayyem

The Sept. 11 memorial’s designers hoped the plaza would be “a living part” of the city—integrated into its fabric and usable “on a daily basis.” I thought that sounded nice, so I asked [Bruce] Schneier one last question. Let’s say we dismantled all the security and let the Sept. 11 memorial be a memorial like any other: a place where citizens and travelers could visit spontaneously, on their own contemplative terms, day or night, subject only to capacity limits until the site is complete. What single measure would most guarantee their safety? I was thinking about cameras and a high-tech control center, “flower pot”-style vehicle barriers, maybe even snipers poised on nearby roofs. Schneier’s answer? Seat belts. On the drive to New York, or in your taxi downtown, buckle up, he warned. It’s dangerous out there.
-- Mark Vanhoenacker

The combination of expansive content rights with automated content analysis systems -- unable to really deal appropriately with public domain materials and fair use -- has created a tightening noose that could ultimately squeeze much of the life out of ordinary user-created video content. Even if we stipulate that the current apparent skewing of these systems toward the powerful content giants is the result of practical and technical considerations, rather than any particular policy imperatives, such a viewpoint doesn't help us escape from this rapidly coagulating, stultifying dilemma.
-- Lauren Weinstein

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"Never again"

Posted Sep 13, 2012 8:14 UTC (Thu) by Seegras (guest, #20463) [Link] (2 responses)

"Never again" like Nazi Germany? "Never again", like having people arrested at night by the Gestapo and held without warrant, charge or lawyer? "Never again", like having people spy on each other (and the state spy on everyone) who might a dissident? "Never again", like profiling people by religion, race or origin?

"Never again"

Posted Sep 13, 2012 10:59 UTC (Thu) by niner (subscriber, #26151) [Link]

A perfect answer. Wow!

"Never again"

Posted Sep 13, 2012 22:23 UTC (Thu) by dlang (guest, #313) [Link]

> "Never again" like Nazi Germany? "Never again", like having people arrested at night by the Gestapo and held without warrant, charge or lawyer? "Never again", like having people spy on each other (and the state spy on everyone) who might a dissident? "Never again", like profiling people by religion, race or origin?

Actually, exactly like that.

It is impossible to put policies and rules in place that will prevent these sorts of things from happening in any country in the world at any time in the future.

It's even impossible to prevent these sorts of things from being done in the United States (and I'm not talking the anti-terrorism policies and actions here, I'm talking about things as simple as misbehaving law enforcement agencies)

All that can be done is to make this sort of thing unacceptable and punish people who misbehave (and since this happens after the fact, it doesn't prevent it from happening)

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Posted Sep 13, 2012 9:47 UTC (Thu) by micka (subscriber, #38720) [Link] (4 responses)

> "Never again." It is as simplistic as it is absurd. It is as vague as it is damaging. No two words have provided so little meaning or context;

Probably not while talking about accident or terrorism (episodic). I suppose the original use of this catchphrase, from WWI veterans, was very meaningful to them.

Well, I admit it wasn't that meaningful not even a generation later

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Posted Sep 13, 2012 11:17 UTC (Thu) by anselm (subscriber, #2796) [Link] (3 responses)

Here's how the German poet, Günter Kunert, put it in 1948:

When the man
Had been pulled from the rubble
Of his bombed house
He shook himself
And said:
Never again.

At least not at once.

Security quotes of the week

Posted Sep 16, 2012 0:53 UTC (Sun) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] (2 responses)

More than 60 years later we are still (mostly) at peace with each other here in Europe. It didn't work for the WWI generation but it worked beautifully after WWII.

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Posted Sep 20, 2012 1:07 UTC (Thu) by nickbp (guest, #63605) [Link]

And all that it took was a divided continent for 45 of those years.

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Posted Sep 23, 2012 11:28 UTC (Sun) by JanC_ (guest, #34940) [Link]

You forget the Balkan wars (after Yugoslavia dissolved), and of course also the "civil wars" in the UK (Northern Ireland), France, Spain, Portugal, etc. And the uproars in e.g. Czechoslovakia during the "Eastern Block" period.

Of course the area covered by the EU has been quite safe (outside of certain "internal wars").


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