OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H)

Posted Jul 28, 2012 16:55 UTC (Sat) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402)
In reply to: OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H) by epa
Parent article: OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H)

"this self-inflicted wound"

It's only self inflicted in the way an appendectomy is.

"or you can instead use fosm.org, which will stay with CC and so is not deleting any contributions."

..though it is run by a bunch of clowns and malcontents and is a great way of sending your contributions down a dead end.

I feel it's important to add that warning.

If people just want the old data, the old planet files are still up and always will be.

OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H)

Posted Jul 29, 2012 14:44 UTC (Sun) by macc (guest, #510) [Link] (8 responses)

appendectomy ?

Pft!

More like gauging out your other perfectly good "blue" eye because it has a pigmentation fault.

OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H)

Posted Jul 29, 2012 15:28 UTC (Sun) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402) [Link] (7 responses)

Yeah.

Thing is, the whole sticking-your-fingers-in-your-ears-and-screaming-"the-license-is-ok-as-it-is-the-license-is-ok-as-it-is" approach doesn't tend to work in court.

OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H)

Posted Jul 29, 2012 19:43 UTC (Sun) by macc (guest, #510) [Link] (4 responses)

MY thumbs are much too thick to stick them in my ears ;-)

Destructively removing voluntary work is the worst thing
a project like this can selfafflict unto itself.

Compare to the DE wikipedia relevance nazis.
( people that have a live just don't add/edit anymore )

This will cost dearly, imho.

OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H)

Posted Jul 30, 2012 9:03 UTC (Mon) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402) [Link] (3 responses)

"Destructively removing voluntary work is the worst thing a project like this can selfafflict unto itself."

By this logic we shouldn't remove contributions where people have blatantly traced from google aerial view.

OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H)

Posted Jul 30, 2012 9:58 UTC (Mon) by macc (guest, #510) [Link] (2 responses)

You are using too much emo words for my taste.

You are in it here for winning an argument
and not for a beneficial discussion.

Good Bye.

OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H)

Posted Jul 31, 2012 8:52 UTC (Tue) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402) [Link]

I can't see a single "emo word" in what I said.

cf. "can selfafflict unto itself".

Good bye.

OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H)

Posted Jul 31, 2012 20:59 UTC (Tue) by robert_s (subscriber, #42402) [Link]

"You are in it here for winning an argument and not for a beneficial discussion."

Oh and no, I'm not really interested in discussion. There have been 5 years of discussion. I've been there since day one. I have heard an awful lot of nonsense in those 5 years, and a lot of people seem to just want to discuss things into the sunset.

OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H)

Posted Jul 29, 2012 21:37 UTC (Sun) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link] (1 responses)

How about waiting a while for CC-BY-SA-4?

OpenStreetMap bot removes waypoints after licensing change (The H)

Posted Aug 2, 2012 22:14 UTC (Thu) by ElCapitano (guest, #86078) [Link]

CC licenses are going in exactly the wrong direction for OSM. CC's declared intent is that its Share-Alike clause will tend to the maximalist (see point 3). That is diametrically opposed to ODbL's Produced Work clause.