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Xfce 4.10 released

Xfce 4.10 released

Posted May 3, 2012 11:27 UTC (Thu) by dgm (subscriber, #49227)
In reply to: Xfce 4.10 released by Otus
Parent article: Xfce 4.10 released

> IME Unity makes it very easy to do the common tasks of opening a specific app whether or not it's running (just click the launcher icon) and opening a new instance of an app (middle click instead).

Middle click is extraneous to most people, and it's unnecessarily difficult on a laptop. I would not argue that Unity makes it easy.

> This is as opposed to old Gnome 2 and other desktops where you have at least two different places to go (task bar or menu/shortcut) depending on what you want and whether the app is already open.

People are used to this. It's how most computer UIs work. It's what everybody that has used a computer has come to expect. Unity feels awkward just for the sake of being different. It's not difficult to guess why many people don't like it.

> Works very well after you get used to it. Especially if the number of frequently used programs is small enough to comfortably fit the launcher.

Too many requirements. What about those that do not want or do not have the patience to "get used to it"? What if your list of frequently used programs is big, or changes frequently?

To be frank, the only people that I can think of that benefit from Unity's design is people like my mother-in-law. She used to let 7 o 8 Firefox windows open in the old Ubuntu Netbook Remix until I came to close them. For some reason, whenever she wanted to look up something with Google, she just opened a new one. Now she can reuse the old instance (but adds a new tab, she cannot be bothered to click on the home button to reuse the one already open).


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Xfce 4.10 released

Posted May 3, 2012 14:00 UTC (Thu) by cortana (subscriber, #24596) [Link] (3 responses)

>> This is as opposed to old Gnome 2 and other desktops where you have at least two different places to go (task bar or menu/shortcut) depending on what you want and whether the app is already open.

>People are used to this. It's how most computer UIs work.

Some people are. Many really aren't. My parents usually end up with three or four copies of Thunderbird running after a typical session on their desktop, because they keep launching a new instance rather than clicking on the running instance in the Window list.

Unifying the launching and activation of tasks is one thing that Apple really got right in OS X (though I'm sure they weren't the first to think of doing so, I think it's reasonable to say that they popularised it, now that it has been adopted by Windows 7 and even GNOME 3).

Xfce 4.10 released

Posted May 4, 2012 17:22 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

The same is true of both my parents and my sister.

This is *not* an obvious thing for anyone who doesn't use a computer regularly (probably because, in most other fields, creating new whatevers is not possible, so they assume that they are always reusing, even when they are not.)

Xfce 4.10 released

Posted May 5, 2012 20:17 UTC (Sat) by robbe (guest, #16131) [Link]

> Unifying the launching and activation of tasks [...]
I first saw this in Nextstep, which is, of course, an OS X progenitor.

Xfce 4.10 released

Posted May 6, 2012 1:23 UTC (Sun) by dgm (subscriber, #49227) [Link]

I think that where Unity really fails is in requiring different buttons for starting the first and subsequent instances. The middle click thing is really not discoverable.

Xfce 4.10 released

Posted May 7, 2012 3:38 UTC (Mon) by mmorrow (guest, #83845) [Link]

> Middle click is extraneous to most people, and it's unnecessarily difficult on a laptop.

Thinkpads have three mouse buttons (and I use one as my main computer).

Also, middle button-paste is mind-numbingly useful, and for me personally to be without it would be crippling.


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