systemd & the tightly couple core band vs a world of many inits

Posted Apr 26, 2012 10:49 UTC (Thu) by cas (guest, #52554)
In reply to: systemd & the tightly couple core band vs a world of many inits by ovitters
Parent article: Shuttleworth: Quality has a new name

I can think of no compelling reason for me to care in the slightest whether you take me seriously or not. Feel free to try to convince me that your opinion should be worth something to me. It won't be easy.

As for Network Manager, given that it is a steaming pile of worthless crap, I have no hesitation in describing it as such.

systemd & the tightly couple core band vs a world of many inits

Posted Apr 26, 2012 11:58 UTC (Thu) by ean5533 (guest, #69480) [Link]

It's not just bkor's opinion you should care about -- it's the entire LWN community that will take you less seriously. Perhaps you don't care about anyone's opinion, but if that's the case, then why are you here?

systemd & the tightly couple core band vs a world of many inits

Posted Apr 26, 2012 22:18 UTC (Thu) by ovitters (guest, #27950) [Link] (2 responses)

You're turning things around. I already stated that the way you communicate is not very nice. As such, why are you asking me to convince you? I fail to see the logic in this. Of course it's your choice to continue communicating in the same way (eventhough I'd appreciate some more strict moderation on LWN).

Some "communities" (as far as LWN is a community) are different; on e.g. GNOME you can disagree/agree as much as you want, but it is not a free for all.

Suggest saying the same as you do here in real life / conferences such as GUADEC/FOSDEM. You'll see that some communication methods just don't get you much further.

systemd & the tightly couple core band vs a world of many inits

Posted Apr 27, 2012 2:36 UTC (Fri) by cas (guest, #52554) [Link] (1 responses)

1. lecturing people because they don't live up to or believe in YOUR PERSONAL IDIOSYNCRATIC PREFERENCES is offensive and annoying.

If you don't like me saying that "software package X is crap, and here are some of the reasons why" then DON'T READ ANYTHING I POST, but don't insist that I conform to YOUR standards as if they are some universal objective standard of correct behaviour.

2. it is you who are turning things around. you said words to the effect of "be nice as i define it or i won't listen to you" - this is a repulsively passive-aggressive form of attempted censorship. I said "why should i care if you listen to me or not?". you still haven't provided any reason why i should care and seem to be going out of your way to provide reasons why i shouldn't.

3. Don't bother me again with this tedious garbage. i'm not interested.

some days i really wish forums like this had a killfile.

systemd & the tightly couple core band vs a world of many inits

Posted Apr 27, 2012 2:43 UTC (Fri) by sfeam (subscriber, #2841) [Link]

"some days i really wish forums like this had a killfile."
It does. You're now in it.