Talk about black markets

Posted Mar 29, 2012 9:11 UTC (Thu) by njwhite (guest, #51848)
In reply to: Talk about black markets by man_ls
Parent article: Security quotes of the week

But then it's mistaken to assume that *anybody* should have the right to break into your computer. Some governments have better publicised human rights violations than others (depending significantly on your source of news, naturally,) but ultimately none should be granted the tools to do it more efficiently.

Talk about black markets

Posted Mar 29, 2012 10:51 UTC (Thu) by man_ls (guest, #15091) [Link] (2 responses)

Well, your government has a right to break into your house and confiscate your computers. That is not negotiable at this point in History (and pretty much at any point). But supposedly we as citizens have certain guarantees, or least we can be aware of the risks. But having 0-day exploits for browsers means that other governments can break into computers remotely and without any due process.

Talk about black markets

Posted Apr 11, 2012 12:45 UTC (Wed) by massimiliano (subscriber, #3048) [Link]

Well, your government has a right to break into your house and confiscate your computers. That is not negotiable at this point in History (and pretty much at any point).

This is in some way fair: sometimes breaking into somebody's house is necessary to provide security for everybody else.

What's creepy about "legally" exploiting zero days exploits is that if the police breaks into my house at least I know it, I can require the police to show me why they did it, and I can arrange some kind of legal defense if I think I deserve it.

If the authorities "legally" break into my computer I have no notification at all... this is what makes me feel it's "plain wrong".

Talk about black markets

Posted Apr 11, 2012 20:53 UTC (Wed) by mathstuf (subscriber, #69389) [Link]

> Well, your government has a right to break into your house and confiscate your computers.

That's a power, not a right.