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Yeah, right

Yeah, right

Posted Feb 24, 2012 8:55 UTC (Fri) by drago01 (subscriber, #50715)
In reply to: Yeah, right by southey
Parent article: Changes and complaints

> I have to say this is perhaps one of the worst unbalanced articles that I have read on LWN over the many years that I have read it! Please don't repeat this again because you are far better than this!

I tend to disagree. It was about time for such an article is published, given the recent flamewars that come up for every bigger change.

> So where does one exactly find [m]ost free software project that discuss these changes, let alone with their community?

Depends on the project but mailing lists, IRC channels, wiki pages ...

> Sure user get lots of opportunities to try out early versions but nowhere do you indicate that users can actually get things changed in that process.

Sure they can file bugs and / or provide _constructive_ feedback on mailing lists. That means no emotionally loaded post full of insults but a simple description of what you are doing why you think something is broken along with suggestions on how it can be solved if you have any.

> So, yes, users have a right to complain loudly!

Sure they can but that is a waste of everyone's (including the users) time. Getting involved and / or provide constructive feedback / bug reports is way more useful.


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Yeah, right

Posted Feb 24, 2012 12:10 UTC (Fri) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] (1 responses)

Getting involved and / or provide constructive feedback / bug reports is way more useful.

Not in my experience. In my interactions with GNOME developers, my suggestions and bug-reports have been greeted with anything ranging from hostility to derision.

So how is that supposed to be "useful"?

In some cases, the politics and personality of a software project are such that it's useless to offer feedback or bug reports; it's better just to stop using the software and move on.

Yeah, right

Posted Feb 24, 2012 12:19 UTC (Fri) by drago01 (subscriber, #50715) [Link]

> Not in my experience. In my interactions with GNOME developers, my suggestions and bug-reports have been greeted with anything ranging from hostility to derision.

Can you point me to specific examples? ... at least for gnome-shell (i.e the project where I am involved in) I can't recall a bug report that has been handled that way.


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