Complaints and changes

Posted Feb 24, 2012 2:29 UTC (Fri) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630)
In reply to: Complaints and changes by khim
Parent article: Changes and complaints

What exactly small interchangable parts approach brings to the table?

A usable system.

I like to compose email in a real editor, not a Gtk or Qt text widget. Kmail has support for an external editor. Thunderbird has an add-on for that. Claws-mail supports it. Evolution does not, except possibly for some weird embedded vim hack (I use emacs.)

I asked the evolution developers to consider adding support for an external editor, and received khim's sed command:

s/care about users/DON'T care about users/

Meh. Why bother?

Complaints and changes

Posted Feb 24, 2012 7:41 UTC (Fri) by drago01 (subscriber, #50715) [Link] (4 responses)

> I asked the evolution developers to consider adding support for an external editor, and received khim's sed command:

> s/care about users/DON'T care about users/

So your definition of "care about users" is "you command => developers implement" ?

Sorry that not how it works.

Complaints and changes

Posted Feb 24, 2012 12:06 UTC (Fri) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] (3 responses)

You completely misunderstand my point or (more likely) deliberately twist what I say. Are you a GNOME developer, by any chance? Because this is the pattern of behavior I've observed in my brief interaction with them. Any suggestion, no matter how sensible, is treated with hostility right from the outset.

So as I said: Why bother? It's easier to take the path of least resistance and de-gnomify my home and workplace.

Complaints and changes

Posted Feb 24, 2012 12:26 UTC (Fri) by drago01 (subscriber, #50715) [Link] (2 responses)

> You completely misunderstand my point or (more likely) deliberately twist what I say.

No I did not (intentionally) twist anything. You just said that you asked the evolution developers to implement a feature (allow using external editors) and they have rejected that. That very fact does not imply any hostility. If anything I can conclude that they disagreed with your reasoning.

> Any suggestion, no matter how sensible, is treated with hostility right from the outset.

You seem to interpret it that way but that is not necessarily true; perceiving any disagreements or different opinions as hostility towards you just ends in emotionally heated debates with no useful outcome.

Complaints and changes

Posted Feb 24, 2012 16:52 UTC (Fri) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] (1 responses)

You just said that you asked the evolution developers to implement a feature (allow using external editors) and they have rejected that.

It was the way they responded. They rejected it with hostility and disdain, which was not necessary.

I have dealt with many developers over the years and can assure you that I know the difference between hostility and simple disagreement.

Complaints and changes

Posted Feb 24, 2012 23:03 UTC (Fri) by zlynx (guest, #2285) [Link]

Heh. I bet you got hostility and disdain because they get *so many* complaints about Evolution's editor. I hate the thing too.