GNOME 3.2 released

Posted Sep 29, 2011 14:24 UTC (Thu) by SLi (subscriber, #53131)
Parent article: GNOME 3.2 released

That's nice. What important features or UI elements does this release remove as unnecessary?

GNOME 3.2 released

Posted Sep 29, 2011 15:40 UTC (Thu) by mpr22 (subscriber, #60784) [Link] (2 responses)

If you care, you should read the release notes. If you don't care, your question seems pointless.

GNOME 3.2 released

Posted Sep 30, 2011 4:21 UTC (Fri) by ncm (guest, #165) [Link] (1 responses)

Curiously, the release notes never seem to mention feature erosion, despite that it has been, manifestly, the topic of greatest interest to readers of these announcements.

GNOME 3.2 released

Posted Sep 30, 2011 11:52 UTC (Fri) by ovitters (guest, #27950) [Link]

As you see in the release notes, ~38000 changes were made by ~1200 people. When writing release notes, the persons ask for the changes and request this. The feedback is on https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointOne/ReleaseNotes. If you check that page, you'll note a huge difference between the input (IMO 3.2 feedback was pretty good), and what is written in the release notes. The difference is ~2 full time weeks of work to track the changes. Then you have the difficulty to write the release notes while stuff is still changing, while you need to finish quickly otherwise the translators don't have time to translate.

Or in brief: usually just not noticed by the person writing the release notes.

Btw: on some sites a lot of people do not even bother to read them. They just comment using on the summary made by the site, even if it is wrong. Ideally I'd like to see a ~3 minute video, but don't think there is time to do that.

GNOME 3.2 released

Posted Sep 30, 2011 15:19 UTC (Fri) by james (subscriber, #1325) [Link] (7 responses)

I notice it says "Focus-follows-mouse handling has improved, though more work is needed", and they plan to improve it further for 3.4.

GNOME 3.2 released

Posted Oct 3, 2011 20:02 UTC (Mon) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link] (6 responses)

Anyone know the details? FFM is a deal-breaker for me. I can probably get used to a lot of things but my motor memory for bumping/nudging/throwing my mouse and typing away is deeply ingrained after 20+ years of use. I'm very productive with this and I'm not interested in changing it.

Personally, as someone who's normal desktop is dual monitors with a total size of 3840x1200 pixels, I really hate the idea of the single menu bar. What a PITA, to have to travel my mouse all that distance to hit the menu! So, my preferred way to solve the FFM issue would be to allow me to turn off the single menu bar in the first place, then it wouldn't be an issue.

GNOME 3.2 released

Posted Oct 4, 2011 14:41 UTC (Tue) by ebassi (subscriber, #54855) [Link] (5 responses)

Personally, as someone who's normal desktop is dual monitors with a total size of 3840x1200 pixels, I really hate the idea of the single menu bar. What a PITA, to have to travel my mouse all that distance to hit the menu! So, my preferred way to solve the FFM issue would be to allow me to turn off the single menu bar in the first place, then it wouldn't be an issue.

I think you're confusing GNOME with Unity. GNOME does not have a single menu bar.

GNOME 3.2 released

Posted Oct 4, 2011 15:10 UTC (Tue) by madscientist (subscriber, #16861) [Link] (4 responses)

You're absolutely right: that's an embarrassing mistake. Mea culpa.

So then, what's the problem with FFM in Gnome 3? Why didn't it work/why does it need improvement?

GNOME 3.2 released

Posted Oct 4, 2011 15:24 UTC (Tue) by mjg59 (subscriber, #23239) [Link] (1 responses)

There's a few cases where the wrong window gets focus. Other than that, it's fairly usable.

GNOME 3.2 released

Posted Oct 4, 2011 15:52 UTC (Tue) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

Well, turning it on is less than intuitive: http://blog.bodhizazen.net/linux/gnome-3-focus-follows-mo...

And occasionally the highlight will be on one window while the keyboard input goes to another. This is not a big deal, just move the mouse. Apparently this is fixed in 3.2.

Overall, like you say, FFM in Gnome 3 works.

Focus-follows-mouse

Posted Oct 4, 2011 15:26 UTC (Tue) by corbet (editor, #1) [Link]

I use FFM exclusively under GNOME 3. As far as I can tell, it works just fine; it's one thing that's not on my list of gripes.

GNOME 3.2 released

Posted Oct 4, 2011 16:18 UTC (Tue) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link]

You're thinking of the global application menu. http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree/Features/Applicatio... It's true, if you have to cross another window when moving to the app menu, you're boned.

No big deal, the app menu is not really used in 3.0.