Tumbleweed backs off on systemd for now

Posted Sep 20, 2011 17:44 UTC (Tue) by vonbrand (subscriber, #4458)
In reply to: Tumbleweed backs off on systemd for now by imitev
Parent article: Tumbleweed backs off on systemd for now

On Fedora 15 I get 40 lines of output from mount(8), not counting various cgroups it's 29. And many of those are virtual filesystems that give a peek into the kernel's inards, so that depends more on the base kernel version than anything else.

In any case, what do you want to read the full output for? It is easy to check just what you need, oblivious to whatever other cruft it might spew at you. I hadn't looked at the full output for ages.

Tumbleweed backs off on systemd for now

Posted Sep 20, 2011 19:19 UTC (Tue) by imitev (guest, #60045) [Link] (2 responses)

>> "In any case, what do you want to read the full output for"

You mean filtering the output ? Reading quickly through a few short lines is easier / takes less time than thinking of a search pattern: oh, what was the fs type again ? where was it mounted ? what are the mount arguments, ...
And then: hmm, no match, did I make a mistake with the regex ? In which case it's safer to use grep -v '\(/sys\|systemd\|tmpfs\|mqueue\|hugetlbfs\)' but you'll agree it's not so convenient when you forgot to set it as an alias or you're too lazy to hack/deploy a little filtering script.

[Note: as I'm getting used to systemd - which I like - I'll just get used to have 40+ lines of mount output. I'm just outlining it used to be a bit easier before, and that for various reasons people still need to go through mount's output (I often do). As jspaleta points out user space may evolve and maybe distros will begin to ship helper scripts or patched mount...]

Tumbleweed backs off on systemd for now

Posted Sep 20, 2011 19:27 UTC (Tue) by imitev (guest, #60045) [Link]

>> As jspaleta points out user space may evolve and maybe distros will begin to ship helper scripts or patched mount

replying to myself: /me will have to check new commands when upgrading (thank you juergbi for the pointer to findmnt)

Tumbleweed backs off on systemd for now

Posted Sep 21, 2011 15:32 UTC (Wed) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

Maybe what you actually need is df -T #?

Tumbleweed backs off on systemd for now

Posted Sep 22, 2011 3:13 UTC (Thu) by jcm (subscriber, #18262) [Link]

I get "too many lines". Too many lines is defined as more than /proc, a tmpfs or two, and my filesystems. When I have to sift through dozens of lines of useless mounts to get to the crux of what I'm using, then it's too many and it's unusable. Sure, it's not systemd's fault that mount, df, and friends don't make this easier, but it was systemd that changed the world to the point that this became a problem. As part of integration, this stuff should be addressed (and that means other than by adding a GUI for df).