LPC: Booting and systemd

Posted Sep 15, 2011 4:03 UTC (Thu) by mezcalero (subscriber, #45103)
In reply to: LPC: Booting and systemd by jcm
Parent article: LPC: Booting and systemd

Jon, there's this old Unix command "man", that is installed on the majority Unix systems. It's pretty cool, you should try it one day. It will show you documentation pages and stuff of most components of a Unix/Linux system.

systemd has 47 of these pages. Woohoo!

LPC: Booting and systemd

Posted Sep 15, 2011 7:08 UTC (Thu) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link] (5 responses)

Oh, that's nothing. sysvinit beats systemd hollow with, uh, one manpage.

Um.

LPC: Booting and systemd

Posted Sep 15, 2011 8:50 UTC (Thu) by jengelh (guest, #33263) [Link] (4 responses)

That may work towards the claim "systemd is bloated". systemd does so much more over sysvinit, having a larger bug surface.

LPC: Booting and systemd

Posted Sep 15, 2011 22:24 UTC (Thu) by bronson (subscriber, #4806) [Link] (1 responses)

I highly doubt that. systemd is big but it's all in one process. No single human on this planet understands all of modern sysvinit.

LPC: Booting and systemd

Posted Sep 16, 2011 17:10 UTC (Fri) by mezcalero (subscriber, #45103) [Link]

systemd is not all PID 1. In fact we are very modular and ship 40 separate binaries or so.

LPC: Booting and systemd

Posted Sep 16, 2011 3:39 UTC (Fri) by AndreE (guest, #60148) [Link]

I like this approach.

Documentation comprehensiveness being directly related to software bloat would give me a compelling argument to give to my boss when asks me to provide thorough documentation for my code

LPC: Booting and systemd

Posted Sep 18, 2011 13:27 UTC (Sun) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

Did I need sarcasm tags? I was trying to say 'any claims that systemd has no documentation must cater for the fact that sysvinit has dramatically less'.

LPC: Booting and systemd

Posted Sep 19, 2011 21:33 UTC (Mon) by Aissen (subscriber, #59976) [Link]

Indeed, it has a lot of manpages. But since it's trying to take over a lot of software, I have the feeling it might not be enough.
Example: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=677962#c4