LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
From: | Italo Vignoli <italo.vignoli-AT-gmail.com> | |
To: | lwn-AT-lwn.net | |
Subject: | LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users | |
Date: | Mon, 01 Aug 2011 16:24:37 +0200 | |
Message-ID: | <4E36B725.6010906@documentfoundation.org> |
Thanks to the work of 300 contributors, the new LibreOffice comes with substantial improvements The Internet, August 1, 2011 - The Document Foundation (TDF) announces LibreOffice 3.4.2, the third version of the 3.4 family, targeting both private individuals and enterprises. LibreOffice 3.4.2 fixes the majority of the most-important bugs identified by users in the previous version, and can be deployed for production needs by most enterprises. The Document Foundation encourages large organizations deploying LibreOffice to do so in conjunction with a support partner, who can carefully assess specific requirements, help manage migration and provide bespoke fixes for identified issues. Purchasing LibreOffice support from a TDF partner also provides enterprises with an indirect means to contribute financially to the project, thereby funding its development, improving its stability, and accelerating its growth. Users should always refer to the release notes before deploying the new version. LibreOffice 3.4.2 is the result of the combined activity of 300 contributors having made more than 23,000 commits, with the addition, deletion or modification of around five million lines of code. The developer community is well balanced between company-sponsored contributors and independent community volunteers: Oracle and SUSE have each provided around 25% of the commits, with a further 25% coming from community volunteers new to the project since our inception, and with a further 20% from RedHat. The remaining commits came from a combination of pre-TDF contributors, Canonical developers, and organizations like Bobiciel, CodeThink, Lanedo, SIL, and Tata Consultancy Services. If we look at the same data for individual developers, the top 12 by number of commits since the inception of LibreOffice is composed of a mixture of corporate-sponsored contributors (from 4 companies: Canonical, Oracle, RedHat and SUSE) and a number of private individual contributors, indicating a balanced situation and a healthy community. "TDF was born with the aim of evolving the OpenOffice.org code to develop a cleaner and leaner free office suite and, after ten months, we are right on track to achieve this objective," says Bjoern Michaelsen, one of the four Canonical contributors, and a key member of the Engineering Steering Committee. "Of course, with such a large code renovation effort, we are aware of the short-term risk of reduced stability, but this is counterbalanced by the long-term improvement in features, speed and - again - stability." Other news is that the number of TDF official contributors and LibreOffice users is increasing. Youbing Jin, President of RedFlag2000 Software Company, says, "We are delighted to see that TDF is getting ever stronger, and we are proud to be part of it." The community around The Document Foundation and LibreOffice will gather in Paris for the first LibreOffice Conference, from October 13 to October 15, 2011 (http://conference.libreoffice.org/). The call for papers is open until August 8, while registration will close at the end of September. Although TDF is happy that 3.4.2, deployed with support from a suitable partner, can be considered "enterprise-ready", it is clearly only one more milestone on our march towards ever greater stability, with the 3.4.3 release to incorporate further stability improvements and security fixes by the end of August. LibreOffice 3.4.2 can be downloaded from http://www.libreoffice.org/download/. Short link to The Document Foundation blog: http://wp.me/p1byPE-ao. -- Italo Vignoli - The Document Foundation email italo.vignoli@documentfoundation.org phone +39.348.5653829 - VoIP +39.02.320621813 skype italovignoli - italo.vignoli@gmail.com
Posted Aug 2, 2011 23:57 UTC (Tue)
by marduk (subscriber, #3831)
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Posted Aug 3, 2011 6:00 UTC (Wed)
by kragilkragil2 (guest, #76172)
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Posted Aug 3, 2011 8:59 UTC (Wed)
by Wol (subscriber, #4433)
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Audit the code, rebase the LO stuff on to the Apache AL2 original, and presto - your LO code is now AL2/MPL-licenced! No need to rely on the (L)GPL at all!
If we divide the LO source code into two parts - the original code from OOo, and the new code from GO-oo and LO itself, the former has all been relicenced AL2 and the latter is all available under the MPL. All it needs is the audit to prove it, and you're set to go!
Cheers,
Posted Aug 3, 2011 10:28 UTC (Wed)
by BeS (guest, #43108)
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But in order to be attractive to "enterprise" users, one should be warned against using terms like "libre" and "free".
Posted Aug 3, 2011 12:04 UTC (Wed)
by Karellen (subscriber, #67644)
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Think patents. Think DVD region coding. Think HDMI. Think trying to prevent grey-market imports. Think import tariffs, lobbied for by enterprise.
Enterprises love monopolies, oligopolies and cartels, which allow them to gouge their customers for as much as possible. Sure, they say they love free markets (and sometimes do, for *other* markets, e.g. so they can outsource labour, manufacturing and support to the lowest bidder who isn't in a position to gouge *them*) , but their actions show that it's not really true.
Posted Aug 3, 2011 13:29 UTC (Wed)
by BeS (guest, #43108)
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Posted Aug 3, 2011 14:23 UTC (Wed)
by kragilkragil2 (guest, #76172)
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Posted Aug 3, 2011 14:43 UTC (Wed)
by BeS (guest, #43108)
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"Free" is not a term which puts companies off. In contrast they really like this term and use it a lot. The crucial point is not the term but how you argue about free software or LibreOffice and how you find the right argument for the right audience. For example listen to Simon Phipps from OSI how he argues about the value of software freedom for business: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xup0HOyQy8U.
(A small side not: Open as in Apache is also Free as in FSF (it's a common misunderstanding that free as in FSF means Copyleft only or even GPL only))
Posted Aug 3, 2011 17:32 UTC (Wed)
by iabervon (subscriber, #722)
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Posted Aug 3, 2011 18:07 UTC (Wed)
by marduk (subscriber, #3831)
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Posted Aug 3, 2011 17:07 UTC (Wed)
by debacle (subscriber, #7114)
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Posted Aug 3, 2011 12:32 UTC (Wed)
by dwmw2 (subscriber, #2063)
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It was bad enough with 3.3.3 where there was no apt/zypp/yum repository, and I had to download a tarball of RPMs, extract that and put it into my own yum repository that I then pointed my machines at. But now they've decided even that was too easy, it seems...
There's a promising 'Other way to download LibreOffice' link near the bottom, but that just takes you back to the same page :(
This is with Firefox 5.0 on Fedora 15.
Posted Aug 3, 2011 12:39 UTC (Wed)
by Trelane (subscriber, #56877)
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Posted Aug 3, 2011 13:47 UTC (Wed)
by Kit (guest, #55925)
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Posted Aug 3, 2011 14:42 UTC (Wed)
by mjw (subscriber, #16740)
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Posted Aug 4, 2011 2:07 UTC (Thu)
by zander76 (guest, #6889)
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LOL, the can it question made me spit out my coffee.
Posted Aug 5, 2011 7:07 UTC (Fri)
by hingo (guest, #14792)
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Posted Aug 5, 2011 8:02 UTC (Fri)
by mjw (subscriber, #16740)
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cia.vc also reports a staggering amount of commit messages:
Their wiki says there are 277 active users (who made changes the last 3 months), with a total of 32,311 edits:
The LibreOffice credits page has even more people listed (611 committers, 1005 wiki contributors), but read the fine print about double counting and also recognizing previous OpenOffice.org contributors: http://www.libreoffice.org/about-us/credits/
I could not find statistics for their mailinglists:
Posted Aug 5, 2011 8:22 UTC (Fri)
by hingo (guest, #14792)
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Posted Aug 5, 2011 9:59 UTC (Fri)
by mjw (subscriber, #16740)
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They will have a huge conference later this year http://conference.libreoffice.org/ in Paris, October 12th-15th, with several tracks. One of those is the Community Building track which will most likely contain some more background about the massive explosion of new contributors: http://conference.libreoffice.org/sponsors/
If I read the numbers right then under corporate control OpenOffice.org got about 200 (code) contributors in total throughout its whole existence. Within less than a year The Document Foundation got more than 400 contributors to LibreOffice code (600 if you also count the old/switched OpenOffice.org ones). That is a huge increase. Not to mention the amount of corporate and organizational sponsors they attracted: http://www.documentfoundation.org/supporters/
Posted Aug 9, 2011 9:45 UTC (Tue)
by mjw (subscriber, #16740)
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11 months in: how is it going ? - extremely well
So new code-vs-translation contributor patches seem about 50/50. I still don't know if those 205+ new contributors are everybody, or whether there are another ~200 "old" contributors who might or might not have also migrated to the new LibreOffice project. But the numbers are impressive for a community grown in less than a year anyway.
Posted Aug 6, 2011 15:27 UTC (Sat)
by mab (guest, #314)
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Posted Aug 9, 2011 20:23 UTC (Tue)
by JanC_ (guest, #34940)
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But in order to be attractive to "enterprise" users, one should be warned against using terms like "libre" and "free". A much more enterprise-friendly term would be LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
"open"... er... nevermind.
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
I don't see IBM actively marketing OO so the license and the name are the things that could hold LO back.
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
Wol
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
I don't know (many|any) company which would appose a market economy aka a free market
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
(Over and out, I know there will be a lot of disagreement, but that is the reality _I_ live in)
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
Can be downloaded?
LibreOffice 3.4.2 can be downloaded from
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/.
Can it? I choose my system and language and can check or uncheck the boxes for 'Download using bittorrent' and 'Get details', but there seems to be no way to actually download it. Am I just being stupid here?
Can be downloaded?
Can be downloaded?
Can be downloaded!
Can be downloaded?
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Wow. Do we have more details on what those 300 contributors are? The email makes it sound they all committed something, perhaps not only code but also translations. Or does it also include things like "people writing to an email list"?
300 is a very good number. Linux, Drupal and some other projects have 1000+ committers. To get a third of that in 2 years is an amazing feat for a piece of software that has stagnated under bad governance for a decade.
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
"32812 messages since the first one, 0.84 years ago, for an average of 13.39 minutes between messages" http://cia.vc/stats/project/libreoffice
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Special:Statistics
http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/
But their main development mailinglist http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/libreoffice/ is seeing between 1200 and 1700 messages a month. gmane might be able to give some statistics about the others:
http://gmane.org/find.php?list=documentfoundation
Excellent! This is an excellent showcase for the difference between mismanaged Sun project vs thriving community project. I always felt OpenOffice was underperforming, after all, a cross platform office suite should by all means have more potential (both in adoption and business) than something like Linux kernel.
One thing I was wondering about the committers, do I remember correctly this includes people committing translations and documentation in many languages? It's still impressive, but would make all of this easier to believe.
I think counting openoffice.org contributors is perfectly kosher. They contributed to LibreOffice whether they like it or not. As the email here explains, they are not the majority of committers anyway.
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ms...
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
205+ entirely new code contributors with included patches
200+ active translators, for ~100 languages (in Pootle)
Two stable branches: 3.3.3 and 3.4.2 7 stable releases in 10 months
Development continues apace: 3.5.0 due early Feb 2012
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users
LibreOffice 3.4.2 for enterprise users