My two cents...

Posted Jul 7, 2011 17:26 UTC (Thu) by bronson (subscriber, #4806)
In reply to: My two cents... by nye
Parent article: A Firefox user plays with Chromium

Just middle-click the icon to the left of the URL. That's almost as easy.

I actually like ignoring middle-spank on the page. Too often have I been burned by trying to paste text into an edit area and getting yanked to randomland instead.

My two cents...

Posted Jul 7, 2011 18:14 UTC (Thu) by ccurtis (guest, #49713) [Link] (5 responses)

Just middle-click the icon to the left of the URL. That's almost as easy.

Like the poster below, I only knew about middle-clicking the "+" (New Tab) feature. Thanks.

I actually like ignoring middle-spank on the page. Too often have I been burned by trying to paste text into an edit area and getting yanked to randomland instead.

I can't say I've ever had that problem, but one thing along these lines that I dislike about Chromium is if you're typing an essay to fill out a far-too-long form and hit [backspace] when the focus is on, say, a link or help icon instead of a text input, it takes you back a page and conveniently forgets everything you typed in as well. If I recall correctly, when middle-clicking in the content area Firefox at least remembers the form data when you hit [Back].

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Posted Jul 8, 2011 14:35 UTC (Fri) by mgedmin (subscriber, #34497) [Link] (2 responses)

So, I'm typing this comment in Chromium, intentionally pressing Back, then Forward -- and my half-typed comment is right there in the text area, preserved perfectly.

This may not work if the form was created dynamically with Javascript some time after the page itself was loaded. I'm looking at you, Facebook.

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Posted Jul 8, 2011 14:58 UTC (Fri) by ccurtis (guest, #49713) [Link] (1 responses)

Okay. Chromium 12 seems to work. I think I was using version 10 prior, and the form was also obnoxious enough to not allow autofill somehow so I'm not sure what was going on.

Just to be clear, what I'm testing is hitting <tab> from here so that the focus is on the "Preview Comment" button, and then hitting <backspace>. It was very much a "burn me once" type event so I hadn't tried it again. And because of sites like FB I probably still won't. 8-/

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Posted Jul 12, 2011 17:11 UTC (Tue) by martine (guest, #59979) [Link]

It was a regression in WebKit that affected all the Linux ports of WebKit. (Backspace to go back is a standard browser behavior on other operating systems; I had to add special code to WebKit to disable it on Linux.) I am sorry it bit you too, it is a real pet peeve of mine so I noticed it within a week of it regressing.

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Posted Jul 11, 2011 9:06 UTC (Mon) by jezuch (subscriber, #52988) [Link] (1 responses)

> if you're typing an essay to fill out a far-too-long form and hit [backspace] when the focus is on, say, a link or help icon instead of a text input

Or you want to erase the last word and you hit CTRL+W. Ow, ow, ow!

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Posted Jul 12, 2011 15:16 UTC (Tue) by nye (subscriber, #51576) [Link]

>Or you want to erase the last word and you hit CTRL+W. Ow, ow, ow!

Ctrl-Shift-T is your friend (and works in at least Chrome/Chromium, Firefox, Opera).

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Posted Jul 7, 2011 18:31 UTC (Thu) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] (8 responses)

Ah, OK. So now I'm down to one reason: The ability to run an external editor on a textarea...

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Posted Jul 8, 2011 0:32 UTC (Fri) by galah (guest, #52673) [Link] (6 responses)

edit with emacs works for me on textareas

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/ljobjlafonikaii...

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Posted Jul 8, 2011 1:00 UTC (Fri) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] (5 responses)

I haven't looked closely at that. Although I do use emacs as my standard text editor, the whole "edit server" infrastructure needed to get it working looks clumsy and fragile.

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Posted Jul 8, 2011 1:58 UTC (Fri) by njs (subscriber, #40338) [Link] (1 responses)

I recently switched to using the emacs edit server in general, and it seems to have gotten quite polished recently. (= Sometime in the last n years since I last played with it...)

I use this trick, so any time I need an emacs I instead get a frame attached to the great mother emacs process, which is transparently spawned on demand if it isn't already running: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsClient#toc2
(I like getting a text-mode emacs for doing things like typing commit messages, and that works with this too, you just pass -nw to emacsclient.)

When I delete the frame (which I have bound to C-x C-c), then the frame goes away and the emacsclient process returns. (There's still some message about using "C-c #" to dismiss the buffer, but I never do and it works fine.)

I've been running this way for a few months now, and so far it's all been smooth.

This thread reminds me that now that this is working, I should reconsider installing It's all Text! I never did before because the emacs startup overhead was too annoying :-)

emacsclient?

Posted Jul 8, 2011 15:09 UTC (Fri) by alex (subscriber, #1355) [Link]

How are you spawning emacsclient for editing textareas? Are you using one of the other edit servers?

The edit-server

Posted Jul 8, 2011 15:06 UTC (Fri) by alex (subscriber, #1355) [Link] (2 responses)

(disclosure: I'm the maintainer of Edit with Emacs)

The choice to use and edit-server is one that's forced on us by Chrome's security model. However (and I may be biased :-) I find it pretty reliable. I have it set-up to load whenever my emacs is in daemon mode which is the general purpose emacs session I use for everything from editing config files to textareas.

About the only thing it's missing is incremental update support. I've had a couple of run-ups at it but I'm not sure if I've been triggering bugs in emacs or my elisp-fu is lacking. Patches are of course welcome!

The edit-server

Posted Jul 8, 2011 18:21 UTC (Fri) by dskoll (subscriber, #1630) [Link] (1 responses)

The choice to use an edit-server is one that's forced on us by Chrome's security model.

Yep, I'm aware of that. :( It's too bad. I suspect I will remain on Firefox indefinitely for that reason.

The edit-server

Posted Jul 8, 2011 20:13 UTC (Fri) by nix (subscriber, #2304) [Link]

I dunno. I use emacsclient for *all* my editing, and -- unlike XEmacs's gnuclient, and older Emacs's emacsclient -- emacs 24.1-to-be's emacsclient has proved flawless, with one caveat: if you shut down the X server while the emacs daemon is running, you must not build Emacs with the Gtk toolkit, because Gtk has long-outstanding bugs that cause it to die messily whenever a connected X server shuts down.

My two cents...

Posted Jul 11, 2011 16:26 UTC (Mon) by docwhat (guest, #40373) [Link]

I'm working on It's All Text! version 2 - It'll work with any browser I can write an extension with. It uses a stand-alone editor daemon to open editors, etc.

I don't have an ETA, in part, because work is eating my brain....but I'm working on it!

Feel free to join in, give suggestions, etc. here: https://github.com/docwhat/iated