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Posted Aug 19, 2003 15:21 UTC (Tue) by rknop (guest, #66) [Link] (3 responses)

I love it. It's the keystone cops maneuver. Those guys are such jokes, in the sickest and saddest way. I heard on "Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me" that humans share a greater fraction of their genes with rats than with cats. Me, though, I'm much more embarassed by sharing a large fraction of my genetic code with McBride and Sontag.

The code *may well* be copied just as SCO says. But it would have been *legitimately* copied.

Two possibilities. First, yes, the McBride and Sontag show is really that stupid, and they've just found the copied code without realizing that SCO/Caldera BSD'ed it years ago. Second, they do know that, but are hoping that nobody will notice; not letting anybody who won't side with them see the code until the very last minute is part of their plan to prevent people from figuring out that in fact the code was legitimately copied.

-Rob

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Posted Aug 19, 2003 15:44 UTC (Tue) by allesfresser (guest, #216) [Link]

Well, that's what their whole farce is about, isn't it? "All your base are belong to us", so no matter where it's copied from, they own it. And so there is no such thing as legitimate copying, no matter what all those nasty evil un-American commie pinko licenses say. What a nice, tidy, convenient hypothesis.

Not.

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Posted Aug 19, 2003 16:20 UTC (Tue) by gups (guest, #14053) [Link] (1 responses)

Regardless of how stupid a show they're putting on, there always are people stupid enough to buy into their crap.

That's why McBride and gang will be making a fortune dumping their previously worthless stocks, and that's probably all they've ever wanted to do.

It's sad.

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Posted Aug 19, 2003 18:31 UTC (Tue) by dsmouse (guest, #14180) [Link]

I hope that they DO make a fortune dumpint their stocks. I also hope they get charged with illegal stock market manipulation

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Posted Aug 19, 2003 15:47 UTC (Tue) by PaulShirley (guest, #14164) [Link]

That document specifically excludes Sys V derivatives, which seems to be what they're currently attacking.

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Posted Aug 19, 2003 16:02 UTC (Tue) by frazier (guest, #3060) [Link] (2 responses)

Bruce,

That license doesn't look GPL compatible to me due to the following:

The following copyright notice applies to the source code files for which this license is granted.
Copyright(C) Caldera International Inc. 2001-2002. All rights reserved.
Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions are met:
Redistributions of source code and documentation must retain the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution.
All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software must display the following acknowledgement:
This product includes software developed or owned by Caldera International, Inc.

Provided this is the case (and I'm following licenses correctly), inclusion in a GPL'd system would be in violation of Caldera's license. That noted, once again Caldera/SCO has likely redistributed this code (uh, set of comments) under the GPL for their own Linux distribution.

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Posted Aug 19, 2003 16:19 UTC (Tue) by BrucePerens (guest, #2510) [Link] (1 responses)

The same code is available under the BSD license without the advertising clause in code copyrighted by the University. I assume this code is subject of the USL vs. BSDI lawsuit and its following settlement. I think it's time for the University to say something about the settlement terms, which aren't entirely public although the results are well-known. We can subpoena them in one of the lawsuits, if necessary. If this came down to attribution and the advertising clause in the Caldera license, they'd have no case anyway.

Bruce

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Posted Aug 19, 2003 17:36 UTC (Tue) by mmarq (guest, #2332) [Link]

"Identical typing errors in the comments as well as unusual ways of writing would have left traitorous traces, to stated Sontag"

" team for pattern recognition had angeheuert, around ten thousands from program lines to through forests. The few code sequences shown apart from the comments were made to a large extent illegible, alleged, in order to protect SCOs author-genuine"

AFAI can read, "they" are making pretty vague, and in a rogue manner, allegations about the copying "mantra"... there is no conclusive statement that garanties that they are talking about this particular algorithm, and not just showing "pattern" like "Identical typing errors" to prove that Linux/OSS are thieves, even without having stealed anything!...

The clear intention, is to confuse the Linux/OSS community, because it is all ears now, as this almost blowing up of the LWN server is prove, and maintain them as far as possible from defeating is master M$, aligned behind "corporate" interests, and at the same time collect a "FEW" dollars from stock speculation and a few really scared users...

In few words, Plain "Criminal" Diversion...