Fedora 16 to use Btrfs as its default filesystem

Posted Jun 10, 2011 1:10 UTC (Fri) by Ed_L. (guest, #24287)
In reply to: Fedora 16 to use Btrfs as its default filesystem by RobertBrockway
Parent article: Fedora 16 to use Btrfs as its default filesystem

Indeed, in what way? And "at this point" isn't really material, as the point of F16's release is five or six months off. Lots of tide to ebb 'tween now and then. From the posted discussion, it sounds like FESCO isn't going to do this thing unless btrfs "just works" -- at least on the routine house-garden-and-kitchen level. Seems to be some question about quota functionality, but that's hardly routine.

I haven't used btrfs myself, so am not really qualified to judge. And I won't be until there's a robust fsck. But FESCO isn't signing off 'till there is one, either.

'Spect there's a checkbox in someone's mind that RHEL can't/shouldn't release an "official" btrfs driver until some time X after its a Fedora default, and enterprise users really want this so there's probably some subtle psycho-pressure from upstairs but then so what else is new? :-)

Fedora 16 to use Btrfs as its default filesystem

Posted Jun 10, 2011 6:39 UTC (Fri) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link] (4 responses)

and the pressure exists on the other side too of course, although that's less excusable because if people were paying attention they can _test_ btrfs it's just not the default.

Fedora 16 to use Btrfs as its default filesystem

Posted Jun 10, 2011 7:15 UTC (Fri) by Ed_L. (guest, #24287) [Link] (3 responses)

Well... testing is one thing. Actually using it without an fsck is another,

Fedora 16 to use Btrfs as its default filesystem

Posted Jun 10, 2011 13:11 UTC (Fri) by tialaramex (subscriber, #21167) [Link] (2 responses)

People (not me, but actual people, even ones who've criticised Linux distributions as too experimental and demanding of their users) run operating systems with no file system check tool at all.

Maybe they just have really good backups, I honestly don't know.

Fedora 16 to use Btrfs as its default filesystem

Posted Jun 11, 2011 20:15 UTC (Sat) by cwillu (guest, #67268) [Link] (1 responses)

I generally treat fsck as an optimization. If it works, great, I'm happy to save the time; if it doesn't, that's why I have backups (hourly in the case of my btrfs systems :p).

Fedora 16 to use Btrfs as its default filesystem

Posted Jun 12, 2011 20:23 UTC (Sun) by tzafrir (subscriber, #11501) [Link]

Right. But then some bits are flipped on the hard-disk and your BTRFS is in a mess. You can't read your hourly snapshots. A simple btrfsck would have fixed that, right?